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[–] somewhiteguy@reddthat.com 171 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

"Secret" just like those emails I get from HR asking my opinions about management that are completely anonymous, but don't forward this email or share the link with anyone else because it's just for me....

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 17 points 2 weeks ago

We had a system like that when I was a manager. It was anonymous but I could usually still tell who it was based off the writing style on the comments or the fact that they were complaining about things that they had already brought up to me. I didn't retaliate against anyone though. Usually I agreed with them and they were complaining about things I had no control over

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I can confirm these are definitely confidential. In so far as your name isn't on it. My place shows us the best and the worst comments

However we can usually tell who said what and me and my manager play a game of who said what each time it comes around.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

me and my manager play a game of who said what each

Definitely easier than taking action, right?

You're on the wrong side of the meme.

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If it were something I can fix it do take action but at my level its trivial shit such as ensuring enough time is allocated to training. The stuff they really complain about is all the stuff the c suite asshats do. You know the ones that dont know us mear mortals beyond can we replace them with ai

But go ahead dont let that get in the way a good narrative you have built up in your head

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[–] akwd169@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Brother, HR is there to protect the company

If a comment comes in that's in the companies best interest to remediate, especially potential legal issues, then they do something

These surveys are not there to make workers live better above the minimum legally required

They do not care about us

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[–] gkaklas@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago

Depends on the system! Even for anonymous polls, you still need to have unique links to ensure that people don't take it multiple times and bias the results. Even if it can track who has (not) answered the poll, it doesn't mean that the answers are traced back to you!

If they want they still can track you though, so this is why we need tools that we can verify how they work, e.g. open source services, maybe hosted on a external trusted provider etc

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[–] VinegarChunks@lemmus.org 78 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Five star rating system was dumb because almost every rating was 1 or 5 stars. It was right to replace with a thumbs up/thumbs down system.

They stopped showing the number of thumbs down. They did not take away the thumbs down button.

[–] eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They stopped showing the number of thumbs down. They did not take away the thumbs down button.

While true, what's the difference? Do we know that they use thumbs down in anything anymore?

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[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah it's still better than FB which doesn't even have a thumbs down. Fortunately I'm only on FB for my job, not being able to downvote makes me crazy.

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[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Five star rating system was dumb because almost every rating was 1 or 5 stars. It was right to replace with a thumbs up/thumbs down system.

That assumes that the only use for ratings is for averaging the aggregate votes across all users. Nope. Sometimes for a specific user they like to be able to see the granularity of their own ratings for their own use. And even if it is a public aggregated thing the rating service can still treat all 1-2 stars as downvotes and 4-5 stars as upvotes while it's easier to use the simpler algorithms, but to still store the more precise data for analyzing correlations at greater detail.

Big tech covered the world in trillion-parameter AI models and couldn't even figure out what to do with 5-star ratings differently from upvotes/downvotes? It's ridiculous.

[–] BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Can confirm this. I created a 5 Star system for my recipe app. Had the feature for a year, I didn't use it once. I just couldn't justify the difference between a 4 or 5 Star. Or 2 and 3 Star.

Switched to dislike, like, love buttons. Nice and discrete. Been using it for weeks now.

[–] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 71 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I like to think Youtube removed the dislike count because their youtube year in review videos were getting slammed with dislikes

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Users up voting and down voting controls what's get popular, by not being transparent about it YouTube can promote crap no one wants to see.

It is just another form of enshitification.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

How many people checked the like/dislike ratio before opening a video?

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Practically everyone.

If you were searching for a tutorial, it was a fantastic time saver.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Somewhere between two and three billion

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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There were even extensions for showing a bar display of the ratio under the thumbnail. So my guess is the answer would be "enough"

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Gotta love the reddit watermark

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lookup the video on Reddit to see if it's worth watching.

I rate this comment 🤡🤡🤡 out of 5 clowns.

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 37 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There's an extension that adds the dislike count back.

[–] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It's unreliable from what I have read

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Of course it is, because YouTube doesn't provide the data so it is forced to derive the rating only from people who use that extension.

[–] bilb@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

I'd always wondered how that worked.

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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

It's not exact, but it's still a useful indicator.

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[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

It estimates dislike amount. I might be wrong but the way it works is that it puts likes from everyone, dislikes from ones who has this extension and an overall view count, mixes this data up in a formula and gives an output of approximate dislike count. Factual count is only known to creators.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

But they did this for one reason and one reason only to appease the companies they advertise for.

That is all. Marketers like safe mundane non-volatile markets. Having a lot of dislikes on a video creates a connotation to the advertisement being played on it.

This is nothing more than marketing.

And don't forget marketing is one of the most evil institutions ever created by humanity.

[–] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Youtube had a star rating system for videos?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 60 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Here's what a video page looked like back in 2003:

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I have my doubts a video could've had 14M views in 2003.

Especially since it was launched in 2005.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 16 points 2 weeks ago

I meant 2005. That was my bad.

Evolution of dance, the most watched video of 2005 on the site, had over 20 million views by 2006.

[–] maltasoron@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago

It looks like an edited screenshot, like "What if the Nixon-Kenny debate happened now?"

[–] EmpatheticTeddyBear@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

<starts playing Weird Al's "Good Old Days">

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[–] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 8 points 2 weeks ago

Early on yeah, they replaced it with the thumbs up/down system since most star ratings were 1 or 5.

[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

They used to, and they currently do too, but the current one isn't meant to be an alternative to the like/dislike button like this portrays.

It's most often in your feed, where occasionally it'll show a video to you, then give you a tiny light blue box beneath it saying "how good of a recommendation is this" or something along those lines, then you rate it so they can both make the algorithm better overall, and fine-tune yours even if you don't want to watch the video. (e.g. I might say "5 stars, this is a good recommendation," but never watch it just because I don't have the time. YouTube knows I like that topic now, just that I might not watch videos that are that long.)

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[–] homes@piefed.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I use the super secret system of telling my favorite YouTubers how disappointed I am that they're not gay when they announce that they're having a baby

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