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[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People worldwide see the true American heart.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think people are seeing the true American heart. I think Americans are seeing the truth in their neighbors' hearts, though. We've been in denial about who we are and our responsibility to the world, because we trusted that our core values (freedom, equality, justice) would endure through scandals and fraudsters and would-be tyrants. Americans were lulled to sleep by casual prosperity and nominal world-leadership. We believed that the critics of America "hate freedom" or were jealous of our well-deserved success. Trump is the inexorable conclusion of that laziness, the funhouse mirror reflection of our own indifference to the world.

I believe most people, anywhere, are good people and want to be good people. The differences arise from defining what is "good" but largely we all want freedom, justice, and equality for ourselves. Extending that to others is a question of empathy, and empathy is created by exposure. America's heart is our diversity, our multiculturalism, and we let that heart become overrun with bigots and tyrants.

That's what the world is seeing, and has seen for 100 years. Bigots and tyrants, claiming moral superiority. It is the Americans who are just now seeing it for the first time.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

because we trusted that our core values (freedom, equality, justice)

Are those really American's core values? It sure hasn't appeared that way from the outside, and that's not a new thing.

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[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Canada was watching, pulled a 180 and didn't elect their own Trump Wannabee.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Didn't elect their own Trump wannabe yet.

Fascism is on the rise globally, so we must all be vigilant. There are enough warning signs that Canada could be just around the corner.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is what has me so depressed. This is a forever thing. They lost there for now, but they're just going to get better at their manipulation as "they" have globally. Reich wing asshole billionaires have been solidifying control of all major media. It's only a matter of time when fascism runs most major countries. :(

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This has happened before. The Nazis were not the only fascists back in the 1930s, it was a global movement. The movement passed. This one will too. It's just a matter of trying to keep the high tide mark down until then.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago

I'm just concerned the media landscape is so different now that we don't have enough people living in the "same reality" to really ensure that. Hope you're right though. Unfortunately no matter what I think we're going to have to go through the worst of it before anything can change. :/

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[–] klu9@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

The Conservatives increased their share of the vote compared to the last election (+7.5%), in particular among younger voters. The Liberals only scraped together just enough for only a minority govt because the vote for other parties plummeted.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4jd39g8y1o

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never stopped doing organizing work since Trump 1, during the Biden regime a lot of people went back to brunch, it was harder to find volunteers. Now they're all back and ready to be mad at the government and do work.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago

Freedom has to be fought for every day. A lot of folks stopped fighting, now it has become much harder.

Thank you for keeping the fight going.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From my European perspective:

  • Countries are finally starting to push for independence from the US when it comes to defence etc
  • The UK and Canada moving closer to the EU, increasing political and economic cooperation
  • Brain drain from the US leading to American academics moving to Europe, bolstering our economy and research
  • Hopefully seeing how fucked up the US is will eventually lead some people to reconsider voting for the far-right in Europe
[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The AfD nutters aren't reconsidering. They just see the deportations and go "yay".

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but I don't think the nutters make up the full quarter of the voting population currently willing to vote for them. Lots of them are protest voters who are just vaguely "against". Besides, I don't think it'd be the deportations making some people reconsider, but the sheer economic stupidity of the Trump government as well as their attitude towards Europe. I fully expect Americans to be far poorer and more miserable in 2-3 years and that might do wonders to dispel the myth that the far-right could "fix the economy".

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[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago

Other contries can use it a a fire against far right forces in their own countries. (That is, if the lwft is compenent zo use it properly).

The USA is losing it's soft power on many countries making them more independed from the US.

[–] toast@retrolemmy.com 0 points 1 year ago

I used to experience a lot of negative emotions when I thought about the second ammendment

[–] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

It has radicalized my previously centrist brother-in-law to the left and continues to do so.

[–] PaulBunyan@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The removal of DEI related protections at large corporations show who really was LGBTQIA+ supportive and who was just riding the trends.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And honestly, the way DEI has been handled in some cases really was not very good. I support the basic principles behind the movement but IMO the proper way to ensure that underrepresented groups get their chance is to address the problem at its roots - improved education, improved political representation, improved access to utilities and financial support and so forth. Hiring quotas are counterproductive. So I'm hoping that after the rubble settle and a new progressive movement eventually rises from the ashes it'll have the opportunity to take a better approach.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Oh, you means liberals did something instead of nothing, and then it wasn't perfect, so conservatives absolutely lost their goddamn minds, only to realize hey maybe we should do something, now let's address the things the liberals wanted to address in the FIRST FUCKING PLACE?

Is that what you mean?

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[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He will reduce mindless consumerism of cheap garbage, so there is that.

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Instead of having 30 dolls, the kids will have 2 dolls... and they may cost a ~bit~ more" - donald (paraphrased a bit)

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

A tiny microplastic lining.

[–] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

The Canadian people are united like they have never been before. Canadian dollar as been rising. Canada is getting more doctors and high level professionals as some flee the U.S. Canada has been expanding trade ties around the world (exception is U.S.). Traveling Canadians are welcomed around the world.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

People in the leisure industry in the US are going to do well. With the low value of the dollar, more people are going to choose to vacation in the US, and it makes vacationing in the US more attractive to foreigners. If they choose to ignore their government's travel advisories about the US, that is.

Given that Trump is in the leisure industry, this is no surprise. In down markets, staycations (or, vacationing within the country) always go up. It may be the one industry that sees an uptick in business.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

more people are going to choose to vacation in the US, and it makes vacationing in the US more attractive to foreigners

Come to the US and stay in one of our luxury ICE detention centers, and then get an all expenses paid vacation to Cuba or El Salvador!

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[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pass me some of what you’re smoking

The supply chain is about to get demolished and tens/hundreds of millions of people are going to lose their jobs without one to replace it. On top of that things are going to explode in price due to inflation and tariffs.

Yet you think people are going to ramp up their vacations. lol.

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[–] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So apparently, from what i read, USAID, while it did some collateral good, was used for covert CIA foreign interventions meant to carry out incredibly damaging experiments for no reason other than CIA being CIA. A lot of these harmful missions were done under covert names like "sex changes in x country" or "lgbt support in y country". Allegedly Trump saw this and killed the program, just out of bigotry, either before the CIA explained it to him or despite it.

Now i had doubts about this myself so i checked online from several sources and the consensus seemed that it checks out. Major news outlets wrote pieces on it. Even USAID defenders always say some variation of "even though USAID was involved in CIA operations destabilizing foreign governments, that was not its main purpose".

So if this is true and as far as my research has lead me, i have no reason to believe it's a fabrication, thank goodness USAID is dead. I thought the US CIA programs of destabilizing foreign governments for shits and giggles was a thing of the past, but i was unfortunately wrong and i now realize that not even aid should be accepted from the US and I'm glad Trump destroyed that program.

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

It's an accelerationist's wet dream. Things are gonna get real bad here soon, and the best we can hope for is the when the backlash comes it will be swift and lasting.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

My wife is no longer hostile to the idea of me owning guns.

I still don't have any other than two collectors pieces that shouldn't ever be fired except as a last resort, only one of which still has ammunition manufactured for it.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The people that didn't vote against this shit are going to suffer for it.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The people that did vote against this shit are going to suffer as well.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Silver linings, not the obvious bad ones

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By crashing the US economy, he is teaching a better lesson about fascism than any history professor.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

America continues to support Ukraine and seems poised to continue that support into the future. Ukraine was my #1 issue in November and I expected much worse from Trump.

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

They're being exploited to avoid death, compare that to what Macron wants from them. If anything, the good news is that EU won't abandon Ukraine.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no change is hardly a silver lining

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Considering a lot of us were projecting that the U.S. would begin arming Russia and the war would end quite dramatically in Russia's favor? Yeah no change is a massive silver lining.

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[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m a US citizen looking for a way out and it’s probably not going to happen because I’m not rich and I’m not important.

The good news is I will likely be killed over this horseshit soon enough so I won’t have to suffer that long with it.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the silver lining is that you die?

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

it's that i escape but yes

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One silver lining that I'm hoping for is that the collapse of American global influence might result in a rollback of the insane intellectual property regime they've been pushing on the rest of the world for generations. There were already hints of this sort of thing happening back during Trump's first term; the Trans Pacific Partnership treaty originally included a bunch of clauses protecting American IP but when Trump withdrew the rest of the signatories redesigned the treaty to remove those clauses.

The withdrawal of American foreign aid sucks, but likewise may end up removing roadblocks to various good things like family planning, sex ed, and so forth being offered. A lot of America's foreign influence was a mixed bag due to their puritanical demands.

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[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

I have never wanted to not be from the US more than the last 6 months.

i appreciate the BuyEU and BuyCanada movements.

also uniting both canada and eu in terms of defense is a good move, imo.

the amount of incompetency people didn't think would exist, we now have a good example of~! maybe it is not incompetency, but retrograde thinking~.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well it hasn't happened yet but if house prices collapse, it will be good as long as we can keep our jobs. So many people I know work here but can't buy a house. I bought my first in a market crash in the 1990s. He's been so bad for the economy, I am hoping the house values crash.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

there are 3 things that concern me about future house prices/ mortgage cost:

  • feds not lowering interest because high inflation.
  • reduced construction labor force.
  • increasing maternal cost.
[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 0 points 1 year ago

We're seeing the beginnings of further European integration. Who knows, there may even be an EU military in the future.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're getting a heavy dose of "You don't know what you've got till it's gone".

It's become apparent that, despite being less than we want, a lot of our tax money actually does go toward things that help the citizens.

Other than that, I got nothing. These policies, decisions, and the people making them are all a disaster that are going to take decades to repair.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah. It also seems, at least where I am, to be attracting the attention of the “voting doesn’t matter they’re all the same” crowd. Serious consequences are hard to ignore.

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