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[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

germany, consistently on the side of genocide.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 0 points 1 year ago

Living in germany and having a brain is not nice atm.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thr GDR (East Germany) formally recognized the state of Palestine and never had diplomatic relations with Israel. They also had military coordination with the PLO and supplied arms to Syria during the October 1973 war

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

The bad guys won Cold War I, but I doubt they’ll win Cold War II.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

I have a bucket of blood. Do you think I took too much?

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Always Sunny memes are perfect for modern international politics.

And I guess we're maybe all going to die because we keep letting idiots lead our countries.

I would get politically active to try to help, but that feels like Charlie work.

[–] frogbellyratbone_@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's like ok ok ok european gov'ts don't care about genocide because they're bloodthirsty lunatics ok ok ok whatever but ok

but ffs what about their finances/economy? germany/others are already fucked because they got cut off from russian gas. imagine iran shuts down the strait of hormuz? europe is going to be fucked

how they are not screaming for jewish supremacists to fuck off is beyond me.

and all of this is only to further get europe addicted to US shale. it's all so apparent and insane how do these idiots in power not see this?

[–] huf@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

honestly, european jews were always a stand-in for muslims (it's more complicated than that) to christian europeans, so i guess now that they can watch the wholesale slaughter of actual muslims, that base urge is satisfied

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

It's why it's called antisemitism.

[–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] stray@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago (14 children)

France being famous for having disposed of all 290 of its own nuclear weapons, of course.

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[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

It's amazing how France and Germany seem to have the same view after US has been pushing the nuclear path. Feels like some play book is being acted out.

[–] gaael@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago

Didn't click on the link but based on the last 8 years, anything Macron says has a strong probability of being dogshit made to sound plausible and appealing to the end user.
We had chatgpt as president before chatgpt was the hype.
So whatever he wrote on the nazi social network, take it with a huge pinch of salt.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Iran is illegally building a nuclear weapon for illegal self defense and Israel is doing a Jack Bauer to stop them.

Obviously, Germany - a country with a long and storied history of liberal democratic values and anti-war principles - will come down on the right side of this conflict. There's no way they'd just align with a Middle Eastern Imperialist power looking to dominate and ethically cleanse a region of its native people.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

France, Germany, the US, and UK are all issuing official statements in full support of Israel's attack, and the US is moving some naval vessels to the ME to defend its little brother. Only China and Russia are going to oppose them on the UN security council.

How's it going "enlightened democracies"?

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

None of them want Iran to have nuclear weapons. They are probably fine with Israel doing the dirty work.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Countries allowed to have nuclear weapons (or energy) check:

[–] hobovision@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Countries allowed to have nukes:

  • countries that already have them
  • countries that make them before someone stops them

Don't forget China, India, and Pakistan all have nukes.

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[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Are anyone here fine with Iran having nuclear weapons? A fundamentalist dictatorship armed with nuclear weapons?

Ignore for a second how Israel is reacting. Are anyone here fine with Iran having nuclear weapons?

If you are, then please explain.

If you aren’t, then please explain what you propose to do to avoid Iran having nuclear weapons.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

I have far less concerns with what Iran will do with nuclear weapons than what the only nation that has used them on civilians will do if they believe they can stop nuclear retaliation, a goal they 've been pursuing for decades.

They after all have a much longer history of violating international law and committing atrocities than Iran,wo themselvesarenot saints at all.

That's without even considering the recent (impressive for an already right wing country) fast and extreme shift to the far right with Trump and co.

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I want both sides to lose this war. I don't want Iran to have nuclear weapons, and I don't want Israel to continue to have the military and economic strength it currently holds.

Just as with the US and Russia, both sides can suck. And Ukraine/Palestine get caught in the middle (although in the case of Ukraine, all the fault lies with Russia).

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[–] stray@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago

I'm okay with Iran having nuclear weapons because many other terrible countries have them already and seem to have zero interest in disarming. They have the right to pursue defense via deterrence.

[–] sudo_halt@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Iranian survival >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your ideals

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[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

We all know which countries are the real threat to peace and prosperity.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

Implying they ever had the plot to begin with

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Fuck Germany for this and fuck Israel.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 1 year ago

German regime and their Nazi Neo baby owners are pathetic

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

People here seem not to understand that you want to avoid Iranians having nuclear weapons at all cost

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After how US and Europe handled ukraine, you would eventually be na idiot to not get nukes from geo political perspective.

Israel has nukes, Israel is the enemy of American people who cause us a lot more issues them Iran.

I really don't care if Iran has nukes. They prollt should so Israel quits trying to draw US into another war like they did with Iraq.

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nuclear weapons don’t help anyone. There are already enough nuclear powers.

I don’t understand your second sentence. Isreal is actually nothing but a proxy state of the US. Just like a nice little outpost. So US and Isreal are already big buddies. I very much believe that the US plays a very big role in this attack on Iran.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel is a threat to US national security.

Zionist infliterated the US institutions and conviced idiots that Israel is a friend.

USS Liberty... When they show you who they are believe them.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel is major component of the US’s imperialist “security” state. Previously:

Jewish Zionists and Israelis certainly play a significant role, but the tail is not wagging the dog. As Biden has explained for decades, “Were there not an Israel, the United States of America would have to invent an Israel to protect her interest in the region.” Israel is America’s unsinkable aircraft carrier in West Asia. Consider also that most Zionists are not Jewish, but Christian. AIPAC Not Just for Jews Anymore

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bidem is a Zionist regime whore... Of course he would say that.

My point being that us plebs don't benefit from the parasitic relationship israel has with the US regime.

Egypt, Jordan, ksa, Turkey are all us allies and we have bases in them.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My point being that us plebs don’t benefit from the parasitic relationship israel has with the US regime.

We sure don’t—no argument there. All it’s likely to get us is austerity, a ramped-up police state, and blowback.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When 9/12 happens the normie will ask: why would anyone do this to us 🤡

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

9/12

Fuckin lol

[–] robotElder2@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A nuclear armed Iran is the only check against zionazi expansion. They should have learned the lesson of Libya and pursued nuclear arms aggressively years ago.

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

I think that Iran should have nukes and America should surrender all of theirs.

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

all countries opposed to the u.s.-led world order should have nuclear weapons

[–] stray@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago

Why not? Surely they understand that nuking someone would lead to themselves being nuked in retaliation.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Politicians when they were asked much earlier (last year?) about unprovoked Israeli attacks on Iran:

"Does Israel have a right to defend itself?"

"Yes"

"Does every country have a right to defend themselves?"

"Yes"

"Does Iran have a right to defend itself?"

"This is a very complex issue, and Israel has a right to defend itself"

If I were from the global South I'd pretend Western countries don't even exist and just work with China, which I'm glad to say it looks like Africa is doing just that. Africa has had some awesome leaders honestly (who France and America are desperately trying to overthrow).

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"If we support Israel with their very own holocaust we'll be even for what we did right?"

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Two Holocausts don't make a right.

[–] stray@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In 2023, Germany said: “Confronted with an openly aggressive Russia, the importance of nuclear deterrence has increased for many states, including for [Germany].

Germany is one of five NATO members to host US nuclear weapons on its territory as part of a nuclear-sharing agreement. The German air force is assigned approximately 15 B61 nuclear bombs, which are deployed at the Büchel air base.

In 2016, Germany voted against the UN General Assembly resolution that established the formal mandate for states to commence negotiations on “a legally binding instrument to prohibit nuclear weapons, leading towards their total elimination”.

https://www.icanw.org/germany

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Germany: Nuclear weapons are good actually

Also Germany: Ban nuclear power return to burning coal

Guess they don't like nuclear if it doesn't involve killing people

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

(West) Germany never stopped being in favour of killing people.

[–] Goten@piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

thank god for israel. iran with nuclear weapons is a nuisance for all civilised countries. they try to build nuclear weapons since 40 years and still failed. its very nice that they are so incompetent.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Iran with nuclear weapons is a nuisance for all ~~civilized countries~~ countries that want to bomb Iran with impunity

Thank God the pillar of stability Israel has nukes, though. They aren't aggressive like Iran, they're only at war with half their neighbors.

[–] Goten@piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago

you know why!

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