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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Anything Shady Vance reveals is that of Peter Thiel's making. Shady Vance is nothing more than a façade.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Abdul should now say "Hey, Vance, I like your beard... oh, sorry, you said I shouldn't mention Usha, never mind."

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 81 points 3 days ago (1 children)

El-Sayed’s comment was a response to that. His claim is that if Vance’s Papaw would have seen a Muslim candidate in the bigoted terms that Vance articulated—as inherently posing a threat to “working people”—then he also might have seen Usha Vance in a similar way.

As a immigrant that grew up in the same Midwest environment, there's no might.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Man I'm really digging this El-Sayed guy. He's not pulling any punches while keeping them all well above-the-belt, and he's not afraid to (figuratively) hold a mirror up to the camera.

Like you know that scene in The Butterfly Effect where Ashton Kutcher's character goes back to when he was a kid and just confidently spouts straight knowledge to a bully about how shitty the bully's life is going to be?

He reminds me of that.

[–] Big_Boss_77@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It's always so satisfying simply stating facts that are so egregious they come across as attacks and insults.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 74 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Everyone knows Vance has been simping on Erika Kirk ever since Charlie died. And that he would love to ditch Usha for her, if he could. He's not fooling anyone with this fake rage.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At this point, I wouldn't put it past him to convert and have a sister wife.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] starik@lemmy.today 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Two wives, who are “sisters” via the marriage. It’s a Mormon thing

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think that means something different in my state.

[–] starik@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago
[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ah, how appropriately disturbing.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Personally polygamy doesn't bug me. But the terminology is just eugh.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Me either, it's the space slavery that makes it problematic for me.

Honestly as an experienced multi-generstional Mormon basher I legit forget that part of their fucked up theology. Kinda hard to keep that in frame when the practical shit they tend to do in the practical, what with the theocracy that is Utah, the rampant environmental abuse, the unearned self righteousness so many of them have, and the weird as fuck cultural infantalism that is so common amongst the Utah variant in particular it's just kinda hard to care about the hypothetical space slavery y'know? Though I will say the further you get from Utah the saner they become, for example for some reason a lot of the younger ones in my area both men and women like Fallout NV, don't know of Joshua Graham has anything to do with that but yeah.

[–] topherclay@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

For the record, the culty terminology of calling each other brother and sister is not tied to the polygamy. It just comes with being a member of the cult in general.

It wouldn't be out of place to stop a bratty twelve year old running around on Sunday and say to him "Brother Harris, I've already told you once to stop running in the hallways." (Harris being the last name of the child.)

I'm not saying it isn't 100% cult behavior, but it isn't part of the multiple wives aspect. It's just how they all talk to each other regardless of who is married to whom.

[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bigamy made legal through religious exemption loopholes.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Except it's not legal.

[–] notsure@fedia.io 54 points 3 days ago (3 children)

i need some fucking bleach in my eyes from actually reading that shit. They quoted the fucker... “Abdul, keep my wife’s name the hell out of your mouth," The same hillbilly who demeaned his entire 'biological' family.

[–] notsure@fedia.io 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The same fucker who wants to deport his wife

[–] notsure@fedia.io 31 points 3 days ago

The same fucker who wants kids, not his, born in the US deported?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It's pretty funny he tried to use the Will Smith Oscar quote too...

Like, does he know that wasn't a good move for Smith? He doesn't know that ended his career and made him a giant joke?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

It just demonstrated, not for the first time, what a weird, sad wanker Will Smith is.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I wondered that same thing.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

Just what you thought you saw...you did, Nazi.

[–] notsure@fedia.io 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] ScoopMcPoops@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Rightly so lol

[–] macaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

JD, every time Trump and MAGA attack my family’s religion and smear my wife for wearing a hijab, they are attacking your wife and kids, too.

🤌🏻

[–] TheBlindPew@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Saw this comment first and thought it was a real quote, I would love to see El-Sayed actually say that directly to JD Vance

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The vice president’s pose as an enforcer of chivalry and rectitude in our politics is ludicrous on its face, given his apologetics for Donald Trump’s nonstop vicious personal smears. But this episode is of interest for another reason: El-Sayed’s stance articulates a bigger point about Vance’s craven compromises with the MAGA coalition’s racist and white nationalist elements that is 100 percent correct.

This is a great piece.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, but there were no compromises. Vance is just a hypocrite.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

it's the fundamental root of all conservatism.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You're going to have problems with authenticity when your family photo makes you look like a phony.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Family photo is just a furniture store

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Say her name more, I'm not seeing actual rage yet.

[–] MountainVeil@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes please. Need to stop backing down from these maga shitheads. They'll bitch and moan all day long regardless.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A fine article, but maga types aren't going to read and think about it. They just feel

[–] Alexfire@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

True, and they tell others to screw their feelings, it's part of the indoctrination, the hypocrisy is real!

[–] Corvidae@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

For me it's always a red flag when the word "evil" is used. While it may be used in non-religious ways, it often has a religious context. Religion has caused too many problems for mankind, and that is why the separation of church and state is so important.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Implying "evil" is most often used religiously is ceding morality to religion. I say this as someone who is a Christian agnostic. If you have morals and you think things can be morally wrong, then you believe in "evil". It comes up in religions because religions often discuss morality, but religions didn't create the idea of evil.