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[–] DigDoug@lemmy.world 198 points 2 months ago (7 children)

...I'm sorry, I think I need a translation for this.

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 145 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I looked up "yumeship" and just found more incomprehensible delusional niche culture bullshit

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 47 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (13 children)

https://everskies.com/club/yumeship/forums/rules/basic-yume-info-64736976

The site above is accessible language-wise. They seem to be either fucking with OOP, or mentally ill, or 11.

Edit: removed a thing, language drift is a helluva drug

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 74 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (18 children)

"We." Always a red flag when someone admits to participating in lolcow shit; buncha chuds bullying autistic kids online.

Edit: hey, all you chuds who are getting mad about this comment, you're not fooling anyone either, it's just other chuds telling you that you've done enough. "Edgy" isn't the same as bullying people to suicide because they're weird, that isn't normal teen behaviour, it comes from internalized values that you will still hold unless you actually address what you believe and why; just not bullying people online anymore isn't the same thing as learning to be better.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (35 children)

I think you underestimate how long the term has been around, and I've hidden nothing. I accept the shitty person I was. Have you confronted your deficiencies as a human being?

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[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 months ago (12 children)

The human brain doesn't fully develop until the mid twenties, and empathy is one of the last things that fully develops. So the nihilistic online edge lord culture is one you can genuinely age out of.

[–] LordMayor@piefed.social 24 points 2 months ago (5 children)

… empathy is one of the last things that fully develops.

That’s not true at all. If you didn’t develop empathy in preschool and have fully developed sense of empathy by middle to high school, you had some serious developmental issues or were raised in a bad environment.

That doesn’t mean middle and high school kids can’t be mean. That cruelty can’t be excused by undeveloped empathy. In fact, they most certainly know how the person feels and are intentionally making them feel bad.

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[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 81 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Weirdo likes to imagine that they have a relationship with the person who originally posted the screenshot with the messages. They're asking the real person to engage in their fantasy by breaking up with another (probably) real person because weirdo's chatbot of them said they would.

F/O in this case is fictional other, a play on S/O for significant other. Yumeship is a dumb word for jerking/schlicking fantasy stuff.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Addendum: "yume" is Japanese for "dream". They dream of being in a (relation)ship with the other person.

We used to call that "self-ship", I'm pretty sure ("I ship myself with xyz") but maybe the difference is that this is not about a character but a real person? Which would make it real person shipping which I think most people agree is a dubious pastime. Did I just argue myself into saying having a crush is problematic? I need sleep.

[–] DokPsy@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

It stops being a crush when you actually tell the crush to break up with someone because it ruins the fantasy you've created with them para-socially.

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 49 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm guessing they have a character AI "girlfriend" modeled after her, and she having a real life broke his illusion

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Jfc. Schools need empathy courses.

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[–] HostilePasta@lemmy.ml 107 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Translation:

Hey, can you break up with your girlfriend? I have a pretend relationship with you and it makes me genuinely uncomfortable to know you have a real-life partner. Also, please delete photos of yourself. I don't want other people to have pictures of my 'fictional other'. Thank you!

P.s. the AI of your character that I believe I'm in a fictional relationship with said you would do these things.

[–] Tolos@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

Thank you, I could barely follow that

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The last line broke my brain. Had to read it a number of times to understand. So an influencer got this message where a fan made an AI version of the influencer and that AI told the fan to send these messages. 😳

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not an influencer I dont think but a character the person was the voice actor for, hence the VA in their username.

The person found or made an AI of that character and that AI of the fictional charactr said the voice actor would do all this if the insane person messaged them.

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[–] muhyb@programming.dev 105 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Can someone explain what exactly is this? I have no idea what I'm looking at.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 139 points 2 months ago (11 children)

As best as I can figure out without doing any research...

A fan of a voice actor has decided that they are in a relationship with the VA's character (yumeship). They therefore want the VA to dump their real girlfriend, and they want the VA to also delete pictures of themself they've posted, because the fan is jealous that other people can see their "fictional other" (like significant other, but you know, fictional).

The fan expects the VA to do all these things because an AI chatbot based on the VA's character said they would.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 90 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the explanation. I think I regret asking about this now. This is just mental.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 25 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Shame they can't rig these chat bots to trick these people into fixing themselves. Be like "Hey, let's take a shower and go outside today" or "how are your job applications going?" but I guess them getting their shit together wouldn't be good for engagement...

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 62 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 41 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Prob with a healthy dose of regular psychosis.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Yeah, parasocial relationships can do that too.

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[–] Kage@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Seems like you need a whole other level of brain damage to comprehend this

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[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 104 points 2 months ago (5 children)

In deux ex invisible war there's an ai hologram of a pop singer. You can talk with her a fair bit, she likes taking you you, etc etc. Then you eventually actually meet the pop singer and she has no idea who you are and actively dislikes interacting with you.

It's weird to see this play out in real time.

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[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 83 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What the fuck am I reading?

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 84 points 2 months ago

Prosecution's exhibit A.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 75 points 2 months ago (2 children)

In my day we used to just have a wank and be done with it

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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 62 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

I think this is bait, no?

It's just such a perfect storm of terminology, that I can only see it as deliberate.

  • yumeship, so dream shipping, where shipping usually means to imagine a relationship in a text that might be subtextual, or even fully imagined.
  • uncomfy/gen, so the usually not very serious gen z term uncomfy for uncomfortable, but then paired with the tone indicator /gen for geniuine.
  • F/O, so fictional/other, a fictional character you ship yourself with, but here applied to a real person they are actively talking to (more "at" than "to", I guess)
  • character ai, so the LLM that is configured to produce output similar to a character or person.

But still, poor Willow, that seems like a very shitty thing to receive.

[–] Zwrt@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 2 months ago

Bait, severe mental illness or both.

[–] khepri@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This better not be real. Then again there was a girl in high school who was extremely into the idea that she was Trinity from the Matrix and I was her Neo. And I don't mean in a cute way, I mean in a genuinely concerning blurring of reality and fiction way.

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[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think it will eventually be known as Evidence.

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[–] november@piefed.blahaj.zone 49 points 2 months ago (35 children)

If it wasn't character dot ai telling them they would, it would be the version of their "F/O" who they were married to on the astral plane. This isn't an AI problem, it's a people being fucking creepy problem.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 26 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's both, because the sycophancy of AI radicalizes some people, the misaligned social feedback cause them to lose their grip on reality

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[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (29 children)

My closest family member ate his own gun when I was in my early 20s.

Its something that always fucked with me, especially knowing he never got to know me as the woman I am. That his partner is left widowed to figure out the rest of her life on her own in her late 50's.

I say this because I want everyone to understand the gravity of the meaning when I say I would have trouble not telling that person to fucking dome themselves.

The idea of the machine being used to take your job being used for THAT.

Like I get its not the right thing to say morally because that person probably has a laundry list of their own problems, but actually fuck them that's ghoulish as shit.

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[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

That's it, I'm officially too old to know what "it" is. This is just gibberish and I can't understand what they are even trying to say. I can't even tell if the text is from a supposed human or Ai.

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I’m too old to even understand what half of this means.

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[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 36 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My AI thingy told me you would do what I told you to.

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[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 32 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I understood the normal words but no idea what the fuck is the context.

What the fuck is "yumship" and "uncomfy/gen"?? Fucking martians used the early access Earth language translator to try and communicate with us.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago

Yumeship is their fantasy relationship, uncomfy/gen is genuinely uncomfortable. Think I'm ready for those end times mentioned in some other posts too.

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[–] arc99@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (6 children)

What does that gibberish even mean?

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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 27 points 2 months ago (6 children)

That is psychotic behavior. OP probably actually is in danger.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

OP, could you maybe repeat this in English? Thanks.

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[–] AlcoholicPenis@futurology.today 24 points 2 months ago

This is what AI use does to your brain. It turns you into a raving schizoid lunatic with delusions about reality.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Taking para social relationships with people we have never met to a whole 'nother level.

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