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I bought Plex pass years ago for £79. The new price of $749.99 is INSANE.

No wonder all the cool people are using Jellyfin.

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[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 92 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Been on jellyfin since day one. Works fine, UI is great and gets the job done. TV UI maybe not top notch, buy usable. Mobile UI just fine and usable.

Also, exposed on the internet (reverse proxy, OIDC, https the works) for years now with zero issues whatsoever as well .

There are a few users always throwing thrash on jellyfin, maybe pissed off users that paid for Plex, or Plex shills that like to denigrate jellyfin, I don't know.

Just ignore them.

Jellyfin is perfectly usable, yes you need to setup port forward, VPN or whatever, but it's exactly our target audience so move along and stop bitching, Plex shills.

Stay with Plex, use jellyfin, whatever fit your bill.

Anyway plex does not fit my concept of self hosting to be free from cloud lock ins.

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

If you're on Android TV (I guess Fire TV works as well), try out Wholphin. It's miles ahead of the official TV app. Also, Findroid works great on mobile.

[–] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

How am I just learning about wholfin now? They need to add that to the third party clients list on the main site because at a glance that's easily top 3 best looking jellyfin clients

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[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 9 points 2 weeks ago

Wholphin

thank you for the suggestion, will try it out! I am using a Fire Stick

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[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 weeks ago

I happened to setup jellyfin when i had first heard about it while I was already hosting plex, so when plex decided to charge for remote streaming years later I was already halfway there.

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[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 68 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I tried Plex once, before I knew about jellyfin. I just wanted an open-source self-hostable media server with my own media.

When I tried it, after installing Plex, I was presented with a login for a Plex hosted account. Iirc that was optional and I skipped it, after that came the nags for Plex pass. Piss off. That's exactly the opposite of what I wanted out of something like jellyfin.

[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 34 points 2 weeks ago (24 children)

Oh yeah and apparently you can't stream remotely without a subscription either? If it were a feature they had to spend time on I'd still not want to use it, but I'd understand at least.

From the application's point of view, there is no difference between internet and intranet access. I just saw that downloading the media you already own, using your own infrastructure, requires an even more expensive subscription.

How tf did people stick around with this shit for so long.

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[–] Rudee@lemmy.ml 46 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Was any justification provided for a nearly 10x price increase!?

Glad I started with Jellyfin

[–] dan@upvote.au 44 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

It's because lifetime licenses aren't sustainable. I'm surprised they still offer it.

Plex is an actual company that has an office and employees, so they have recurring costs every month. A lot of people already have lifetime licenses that they're not likely to receive any more revenue from. It's likely they're increasing the price to help recoup costs or convince people to subscribe to a monthly subscription rather than get a lifetime license.

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 15 points 2 weeks ago

Nah, they increased the cost to drive people to the monthly subscription. I'm guessing in a year or two they'll announce the lifetime subs have been revoked and everyone needs a monthly sub.

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[–] whereitsat@lemmy.zip 37 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

who is this for?

those unicorn users who make 150k++ a year and pirate all their media and then wanna share it with their friends that they don't have?

[–] whereitsat@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 weeks ago

travelling salesmen who pirate all their media??

[–] inverted_deflector@startrek.website 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

To be fair there are plenty of users who rip their own media. But sentiment stands

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You know that even if you paid that ridiculous amount, it still wouldn't be the last time they try to get money out of you, either.

[–] homes@piefed.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (13 children)

After 16 years of having a lifetime pass (and nearly 20 years of administering multiple Plex servers), I know this to be false. And, unless you have one yourself, you could not possibly know. Especially because, with a lifetime pass, there’s no other way that could possibly ask for money from a user. It’s literally impossible.

But, if I’m wrong, show proof of your lifetime pass, and the solicitous emails you received subsequently. I know you can’t.

If you’re going to speak from such obvious ignorance, it should be easy to admit when you’re wrong

Most Lemmy users, however, never find such a thing so easy…

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

I think it's more that they're implying the company is likely to get worse in the future and start trying shit, not what they've already experienced. The price now being nearly 10x what it once was is a pretty big red flag, after all.

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Lifetime single pay subscriptions don’t make financial sense at all for a company. As much as I hate subscriptions, it’s the only way to get long term support, which software needs.

[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If Jellyfin can fill most Plex features for most people, maybe it’s not that they need to charge money to survive. Maybe it’s that their product value proposition has eroded.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Certainly, but open source projects rely too heavily on the goodwill of volunteers who still need to feed their families. Hopefully Jellyfin’s incoming users contribute to the project.

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[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 11 points 2 weeks ago

They managed years without going to a subscription model. This is about shareholder needs not software upkeep.

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[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I do wonder if this is a last ditch effort cash grab before they go under or a "we really thought we'd be acquired by now so now we have to plan ahead" move.

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[–] webkitten@piefed.social 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

jellyfin: hey here i am you can have me for free. i even run on your own server.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah but I hear they recently decided to raise their pricing by like 30%.

Joke being 30% of 0 is still 0

[–] e461h@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago

Jellyfin is always free, works great, and keeps getting better!

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

I like jellyfin

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Even now - at the peak point of the Memory/SSD price bubble - about 1/3 of that lifetime pass buys you enough dedicated hardware to do it yourself for at least the next decade, probably more.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Wait what. $750? I think I paid like $100 years ago. Damn.

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[–] kieron115@startrek.website 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You'll retain your existing lifetime pass, fwiw. This is just price gouging new customers.

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