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[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 1 week ago

Trumpinize profits, bidenize losses.

[–] bigbangdangler@reddthat.com 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump has been President for 6 of the last 10 years.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah but MAGA can't count that high.

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Ye Bidens fault war in Ukraine, bidens fault Iran war, Biden this Biden that. That man really hates to loose, and the only man he ever met in the election he lost to. He is loosing his mind over it.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Bold of you to assume he still has a mind to lose.

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Weirdly two separate comments in a row using "looser/loosing"

[–] grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 1 week ago

every which way but loose, except for below the belt & above the neck

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I win: I'm the best Potus ever!
I lose: It's all Biden's fault!

[–] bajabound@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Don't forget to sneak in an Obama every now and then.

[–] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

let's see, biden had one term, you've had one and a half. Whose fault is this, again?

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

umm Obama's and umm Bush's and umm Clinton's!

It's not the monkey that ruins everything he touches, honest!

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 18 points 1 week ago

Used to be all Obama’s fault but Biden actually defeated the Demented pedo mate. He just can’t move on and be a president as he always sees himself as a looser.

[–] sportsjorts@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago

It feels like it’s been a century since Biden.

[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, but Trump lies incessantly, and is a whiny little bitch. Also 'hottest' hasn't been a thing since the 80's, and he sounds more lame than usual whenever he uses it.

[–] ugandan_airways@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

He sounds like Paris Hilton.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

It started with "lobbyists" in the 70's and continued with "business administration" in the 80's. The usa is a rotting, corrupt husk. Trump is just the madman playing his fiddle at the end while grabbing as much gold as he can. How'd all that greed and capitalism work out for you? I guess the tech bros love it but, while they are powerful, they don't represent societal values.

[–] Casterial@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Isn't China in far more debt than the US? About 300% of its GDP. Sure, we're declining, but so are they and they never really rose.

Trumps just sped up our decline.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Sort of wrong metric. It gets weird in China because of the blurred lines between their government and private enterprise.

China's official government debt is only 98% of GDP so slightly lower than the US right now and a lot less than the US is projected to be by end of 2026 (125%).
However China's total debt, which includes both public-private enterprise (which their government effectively controls), and household debt, is around 330% of GDP. A lot of people use the total debt figure since it makes more sense for their economic structure but it's not really "right".

If we want to take the USA by the same metric, the government debt of 124% pales in comparison to the US total debt of... 719%.
Except that's 600% of private enterprise and household/consumer debt which is not really government controlled and does not have a direct impact on the government's solvency.

[–] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Chinese debt is largely domestic, so the government can pay it when it’s convenient or choose not to pay it at all.

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who's winning, if anyone at all?

Going by government, it's only a ~25% difference; domestically it's twice as worse in USA, but that's not what governments are concerned about.

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My take would be China, at least when they do government spending its on infrastructure, energy, transit, etc. The US spends on....military and AI, oh and don't forget private socialism for giant corporations.

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The US spends on private socialism?

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

In the form of subsidies and grants, 100%

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Government debt isn't inherently bad.

For example, Infrastructure projects typically pay back several times in value, so it's often sensible to fund these using debt. China has built shitloads of infrastructure over the past couple of decades

Government debt is bad if it's not funding infrastructure and is instead being used to pay for things like tax breaks on the wealthy and vanity projects

[–] Casterial@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

That's the reason the US is in a downfall, anytime we have a infrastructure project (i.e California's train) the government shuts it down due to cost, they think about now and not long term.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://debtclock.io/

They're 110 to our 133 apparently.

Japan is absolutely wild at twice of Japan, no idea what's going on there. But presumably they're investing heavily in AI or something

[–] magnue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Credit fuels a growing economy and smothers a failing one. At some point the US economy must collapse. This is why the US are going after all the major trade chokepoints in a desperate attempt to maintain dominance using their military might.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You act like America is acting like a rational country...

trump invested in oil so he wanted to raise the price of oil.

For him, the way to do that is prevent competition from doing business.

It's pretty easy to get a handle on his thought process by watching The Sopranos. trump wants to be Tony, even though Tony was wildly incompetent. Not that trump ever watched the show, he grew up around the real thing. He idolizes the last generation of incompetent NYC mobsters that Tony is based on.

There's no 4D chess or grand strategy, he just makes the most selfish decision at every chance that he thinks he can get away with, and right now he thinks he can get away with anything.

If a random person told him they'd cut him 10 million on a grift, he does what they say and then tries to capture the grift and cut out whoever brought it to be.

Logically it makes sense Venezuela was at the behest of American corps, but then trump decided he could take it even further, so he unilaterally shut down the largest shipping route for oil on the planet.

Just cuz it would make his bank account numbers go up a little more.

That's it. Pure simple greed from someone whose brain is mush, he just knows he wants more money, that's the only motivation for anything America does while he's in charge. There's just gonna be a lot of evil shit because no one in power cares to stop it.

Like, if you're mad about it (everyone should be) you need to understand what's happening to effectively stop it.

We have to fuck his money up

[–] magnue@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't actually think he has as much control as people think. I think he's the ideal president for the military to do whatever the fuck it wants and use him as an excuse for how crazy it seems.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's purged the military at the highest levels...

Buddy, you just don't seem to be informed on this topic, which is fine, but stop making random guesses and start asking questions if you want to learn anything

[–] magnue@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Don't call me buddy, pal.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

China has (or had until very recently) over a trillion in US debt.

[–] tacoplease@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

"Hottest" cause it's going to hell at record speed.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

When the line goes up that’s me! When the line goes down that’s Biden! 🫲🍊🫱

Sir it’s May 2026, we are at war with Iran, the price of everything is skyrocketing, and we are facing a major fuel shortage due to said war…and where is the Epstein files?

That’s Biden! 🫲🍊🫱

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

And americans are probably blaming trump

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Biden’s real failing was not wining and dining and sucking up to Trump. Apparently that’s all you have to do to stick him in the palm of your hand.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Biden's real failing was not locking up Trump.

[–] TerdFerguson@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My feelings are hurt. I will retreat into my sycophantic echo chamber to make myself feel better.

What a pathetic little piss baby.

See? That's exactly what I am talking about.

-Pooh Bear

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's crazy is we legitimately would have been better off if trump was back to back and we didn't have Biden...

The DNC would have still pivoted from neoliberalism if Biden lost, just four years earlier.

Especially if people still voted down ballot in 2024.

He have taken the full blame for his early policy and by now people would be pretending to have never supported him like after GW.

We really can't afford another neoliberal , we need someone willing to fix wealth inequality. 2028 may be our last chance

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

If you've seen trump long enough you'd know he always makes excuses for everything. He doesn't need Biden for it. It's just one convenient excuse; he has an endless supply.