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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 65 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That isn't a fair comparison. Winrar has been here for decades, while OpenAI is relative new. Give OpenAI 2 decades of time and we can then see it loss 5 trillion dollar.

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 68 points 1 month ago

That isn't a fair comparison, WinRAR actually provides value to its users.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fewer people have been driven to suicide by WinRar

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Not sure if the same applies to WinZip though.

[–] xyguy@startrek.website 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well maybe OpenAI has only made 0 dollars now. But, give it a few years and its sure to make at least $000,000,000,000.00.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Maybe if you put a minus in front of that!

David Caruso face, and jabs sunglasses arm into tear duct

[–] omarthemediocre@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

To be honest I am more profitable than OpenAI. My salary covers my expanses and I still have some money left at the end of the month. Can Sam Altman say the same about OpenAI?

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Can you also hallucinate bad advice for free, or is that a subscription service?

[–] GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's free, but I might start including ads in my hallucinations soon

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Totally understandable. You gotta keep up with the enshittification.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

I can't wait for it to start hallucinating ads

[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

How about ads to get you to NOT buy something, like advertising a FOSS app.

[–] King_Bob_IV@startrek.website 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sam's Altman can definitely say that his salary covers his expenses and that he has money left over at the end of the month. Open AI has been very profitable for him. It's just not profitable as a company.

[–] omarthemediocre@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, Sam is fine, he has always been good at grifting ever since he sold that useless app of tracking friends

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 2 points 1 month ago

He's getting paid in exposure.

[–] LordDaveTheKind@piefed.social 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

WinRAR sells a successful and effective product to companies. AFAIK, their main business is B2B.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What do they sell? WinRaR is not a good application

[–] LordDaveTheKind@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I can name 2 o 3 corpos (big ones) who regularly renew their WinRAR license. And that repays it abundantly.

[–] thevoidzero@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

This is how I want things to work. Big Commercial use needs to pay, everyone else get for free, and open source.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 month ago

I thought you were trolling or the it team at those companies were trolling. But dam winrar still has a huge user base and still gets updates.

[–] thevoidzero@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I really love desktop applications. They do their job, you install it and it's done. And you can work towards next version and such while people can decide to not upgrade.

Now everything is cloud, they only maintain one version, they can change it whenever, you can't get any say, and have to always agree on their policies. And have Internet connection.

If I could make money making desktop applications, I would love that job. Everything is web and AI now

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Everything is cloud = everything is someone else's computer

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago

...means everything is subscription

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Honestly I like well built web apps better. They are install once, use anytime anywhere.

The main thing though being that it's self hosted, self managed. Fuck the "service providers" that will try to steal your first born of they can

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The time I put some money to see how options worked and lost it all was more profitable than OpenAI. I only lost some $300.

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I considered sharing my own choices that led to lost money, while still more profitable than OpenAI...but there are just too many.

Edit: Here's one - that time Homer Simpson bought a mint condition copy of Amazing Fantasy #15, and then ate it - was still more profitable than OpenAI.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Winrar never made me go crazy and kill myself

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

The Metaverse ~~is~~ was more profitable than OpenAI. Pets.com was more profitable than OpenAI.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did they ever found that guy that bought that WinRAR license? It's one of a kind and must be worth a lot more now.

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm that guy, or i was like 25 years ago!

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am also that guy, and it was more like 17 years ago.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Dang! Two exist! That lowers the value, still significant more than a trump nft

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I really wonder how many people pay for LLMs. I used to have my company pay for one product but that was company money. hard for me to believe I would've ever spent my own money on that. Unless it was $20 a year instead of $100, I guess then maybe I would have. I think the fact that every tech company is cramming LLMs for free into every product is a sign that most people wouldn't pay for them.

[–] Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I also wonder who's actually willing to pay for this shit. Even with ai generated 'art' unless you need large volumes, it's probably cheaper to just go on fiver and hire a real artist to make something for you

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

I'm more profitable than OpenAI. Just me, working my shitty, dead end job.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not only more profitable, but more valuable as well. Not that it's particularly valuable.

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Perhaps you meant useful

[–] naught101@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

WinRAR = 1$

OpenAI = 0$

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

AI: here are some numbers you asked me for. 7 , 554, 90871, 3.1425, 276, -4, 1155. If you tell how you gonna use them I can make a preformatted document. Do you want me to make a year staterment of your bookkeeping? Or name a country and i provide a random phone number from there.