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[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

πŸŒπŸ‘¨β€πŸš€πŸ”«πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€

[–] Balinares@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am in mad love with this Darmok-ass comment.

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damon's Gatsby, his glass raised

Darmok and Jalad when the misogynist raged.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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I get the meme, but I don't know how to apply it to this post.

Could someone elaborate?

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[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The line at the bottom, the reply to the wall of text

"Noted. misogyny is a skill issue"

always has been

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ahh, ok. Thanks. Was focusing on the body/paragraph of the text.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I never understood this mentality, myself.

Gamers: "I never get laid... 😩"

Also Gamers: "Women are just kitchen accessories."

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

because you think of "I never get laid" as a normal human need to connect with another person, which is what it is but they're too deep in misogyny to realize it. instead to them getting laid is a quest to complete and it involves a quest item known as a woman, not a character. so I never get laid has less of an undertone of "why can't I connect with a woman" and more of "when will we get our government mandated sex slaves"

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I understand it, but I don't think it applies.

Gamers tend to think of things as quests. A box to check off. A completionist. Getting married and having kids is part of life's quests for many people. It's not seen as collaboration in many ways.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How does romance work in most video games? Select the correct dialogue options, memorize the correct answer to questions, give them the same gift every day?

The other main way a lot of young men β€œinteract” with women is through porn, which is always made with a mind to what a woman would enjoy during sex…/s

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can buy a new toaster from the shop, why can't I buy a woman too? Does this mean Gamers are pro sex-work? Or pro indentured servitude for women more likely..

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You cant pirate pussy, and we all know how gamers feel about subscription models.

[–] MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have ~10k hours in counterstrike across multi game versions and accounts. I noticed a similar thing over my years. The players doing well in a match were often neutral towards gamer girls, but the guy having a shit match would be the fastest sack of shit every time. Especially if one of the top fraggers pointed out they were being beaten by a girl.

Obviously there are always exceptions to any rules but in my anecdotal experience the guys who were confident in their abilities didn't care about women but losers would attack them just for speaking.

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

You're absolutely correct, I had a similar experience

I played CS for roughly the same amount of time; my clan ranges from DMG to Global, but we had a rule that if you were in the clan, we'd 5-man with you regardless of your rank, so if you were Silver, you'd have a chance to rub elbows and learn strategies from the higher skilled players.

Then we got a Global, a girl named Moon.

Holy hell, it's like people's brains did a 180Β°, they were incredibly mean to her, for no reason, and eventually it came out that she was trans, and they bullied her even worse, out of the server.

I kicked everyone who bullied/demonized Moon for being trans; because at the end of the day, it was about being a honest human being, and not just a CS player/gamer.

EspeciallyΒ if one of the top fraggers pointed out they were being beaten by a girl.

Not really a gold star by the top player’s name for this, either. The comment alone leaves plenty of room to be interpreted as β€œgirls should be easy to beat/poor gamers because they’re girls.”

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man. I miss when gungame was filled with people and all the fun addons. Warcraft 3 mods, vote for knife fight, β€œgotcha bitch” with every knife kill.

I want to go back.

[–] CarnivorousCouch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Counter Strike was way better when this was the vibe. I am so tired of competitive this and gun case that. I've never been interested in 5v5 scrimming in any serious way, but that's all CS2 wants me to do.

I want gun game, I want wc3, I want ZM. I want quirky custom maps (glass!) and quake sounds and !bet ct all. I want to fuck around with new friends on a server for an evening, not to sweat my balls off throwing practiced smokes on dust2.

Ego soothing, peacocking behavior

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well then the obvious conclusion is that respecting women makes you better at video games.

[–] TwanHE@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

More likely higher ranked players finally figured out that keeping harmony within your team does wonders for your chance at winning. The amount of infighting I've had to stop just to save my elo is insane, why would i start something just because of someone's gender.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think that's right, I'm terrible at games but I still respect women (enough to spare them from interacting with me whenever possible. Same goes for all people really)

[–] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Think about how bad you would be if you hated women. You're really skill-maxing.

[–] Inf_V@kbin.earth 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"but behaved more submissively towards players with a male voice" I want to know what they mean by submissive

[–] thelasttoot@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

They were less confrontational and more likely to accept direction

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

They got into some freaky shit in those lobbies.

Appeal to authority. Higher-skilled male players got to call the shots, lead, delegate etc.

[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same way you're "submissive" to your boss

butt stuff, gotcha

[–] squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Obligatory footnote: EvoPsych is mostly bunk, deeply intertwined with eugenics and riddled with homophobia, sexism and rape apologia.

[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] GalacticHero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Evolutionary psychology. I think there’s real research in the field, but it’s drowned out by charlatans who invoke its name to lend credence to their made-up bullshit without the burden of scientific rigour.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Traditionally, yes, but I do want to note that modern takes use it to also argue for cooperation, since working with with others is good for survival and passing on genes. They also are the first to tell people how bunk the alpha male crap is, and the fact a lone wolf is a dead wolf.

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Reminds me of this: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0361684319871913

In short. The higher the social status of the woman compared to the man, the more likely the man is to sexually objectify her. Wheras women aren't more likely to do this based on relative status.

Objectification is defined as reducing a person to solely looks and sexual function.

Similar stuff is seen in primates. Females are easier targets to assert dominance over. Since they are physically weaker. Male long tail maqacues losing their status, would seek out younger/weaker targets to establish dominance over. Something that was interesting too, is that female maqacues with more masculine facial features, were less often subjected to dominance seeking behaviour (from both males and females if I recall correctly) than females with more feminine faces.

It seems to boil down to "who can I dominate with little risk?" Female? Easy. Big male? Stupid idea. Young male? No problem. Male of equal size? Potentially.

My daughter wanted to wear my headset when I was playing battlefield once. It was so funny listening to those losers rage because they Were getting stomped by a 5 yr old girl. Now days she still puts it on from time to time and it's still hilarious.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they then went on to become the founders of incel culture

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Incel culture has always existed it just didn't have a way out if its mom's basement without the internet.

[–] drthunder@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

I got hit on a couple times in Starcraft 2 of all games just because I had a feminine-sounding username. I literally got "damn girl, look at that MMR" once and it's so funny.

That summary may also explain why some men are so insecure about women earning more money than them too.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I have noticed that all of these misogynists are incredibly insecure alpha-pretending males. Can't imagine how tiring this constant fear must be.

[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I'd let a girl top me on the leaderboard any day ;)

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So my transition from cringe lord to become a better individual overall is actually just me getting better at video game? Fair enough

[–] Elevator7009@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

work to improve the skill gap or draw 20

acknowledge that one singular woman is currently better than you at this one particular skill or draw 20

man it's like there are options that don't involve aggression towards another person for… not being bad at a video game

I count myself lucky the men I know in real life are chill, and that I am not too interested in PvP games, scared off by the constant reinforcement from stories online that someone will be shitty to me because I am a woman. When I did play TF2 it was always pubs mic off and with a very gender-neutral username.