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[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 178 points 1 week ago (5 children)

USA just switched off starlink in Ukraine. They blocked Microsoft accounts and visa cards from ICC members. You can't rely on USA tech. It's got a killswitch and a madman ready to push the button.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 87 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

And you americans, go out there and vote Democrat, you can do politics in third parties later if you have a country left after the election.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And you americans, go out there and vote Democrat*, you can do politics in third parties later if you have a country left after the election.

*Vote as far left as possible in the Democrat primaries too or it's all for nothing.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

4 months too late my man

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[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 week ago

Diversification helps here. Being able to switch service providers easy and quickly is best for users.

At the moment it's good for Europeans to focus on domestic services, but in the long run our laws and governments may also turn more oppressive, so having many different reliable alternatives is the recipe for a free and empowered society.

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[–] bookmeat@fedinsfw.app 108 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Now if they also directed the license cost savings back toward funding their newly chosen oss projects, we'd be golden.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Imagine. Companies that instead pay X amount pay X*.25 or something. Small cost for the business compared to Microsoft and huge boost in revenue to improve OSS.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

B-but a study funded by CCIA Europe (Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Meta…) says EU cloud sovereignty rules would cost Europe up to €233 billion. (Conveniently, it doesn't count the benefits of not depending on them.)

So considerate of them, worrying about our wallets out of pure altruism.

[–] Tess@piefed.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The general message I hear among enterprise architects is that there's a price for IT sovereignty.
But that it's a price worth paying.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago

A price for switching.

Then it's simpler and cheaper.

It's even cheaper hardware wise in many cases.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I question if the price is really higher, once the transition costs are paid. Those cloud services by US big tech ain't cheap and are highky profitable.

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[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even just a one-time monthly payment equivalent would be massive. I've seen companies that spend well over 60k a month on microsoft licenses.

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[–] low@piefed.ca 9 points 1 week ago

I imagine most of those costs are probably redirected to implementation at first.

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I agree. Digital sovereignty is important for the EU. The less we are in the pocket of the US the better.

Digital anarchy is important for the regular people. The more you take technology in your own hands, the less you are at the whims of centralised services.

[–] rhythmisaprancer@quokk.au 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Reading down those actions and it turns out I'm already doing most of those things.

[–] rhythmisaprancer@quokk.au 8 points 1 week ago

Right on! Just thought I would pass it on in the spirit of your statement. There are so many things we can do.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

First time I have seen "digital anarchy" and I love it. Except it sounds like a punk-techno band. Lol.

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[–] myyass@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Microslop is a security risk. An OS with a backdoor isn't useful for anything but gaming.

[–] hanke@feddit.nu 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why would you want a backdoor on the OS of your gaming machine?

[–] myyass@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't and it sounds like I might not have to soon. Mslop had us by the balls for long enough.

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[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

Some anticheat systems require a backdoor. If those are games you want to play, you have to submit to it. Personally I see it as a reason to avoid those games, but if you really want to play them, you may not have a choice. Apart from pressuring the publisher to support saner anticheat and Linux.

[–] StoneStar@feddit.nl 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You don't need no windows for no gaming, this isn't 2015 jesus

[–] myyass@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I know, but I still do classes and they require you use garbage software. Eventually I'll get it sorted out.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It might be worth checking if there's really no alternative. I intend to do that for my son; his school requires Windows, but he's starting to get increasingly annoyed by Windows (his laptop has Win11) so I want to check with the school why exactly Windows is so essential. Presumably, most is Web, so will work just fine on Linux. Specific software may have a Linux version, run fine on Wine, or have an open source alternative.

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[–] StoneStar@feddit.nl 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel your pain. Hang in there!

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[–] FE80@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's always nice to see Microsoft get kicked in the balls.

[–] Scrollone@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Especially after they lobbied/bribed the ISO committee into approving the broken and closed-source OOXML as if it was an open standard

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 7 points 1 week ago

What do you mean, the Office Open Extensible Markup Language isn't open source? That's nonsense! Next, you'll tell me OpenAI is some sort of opaque stock market scam.

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[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I wonder if the tech companies will realize their bending to Trump is going to shoot them in the ass

[–] Pacers31Colts18@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago

Satya sure won't. See his latest post on the super intelligence era.

[–] DeckPacker@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No, it is not. They still get billions of American taxpayer money

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

De-dollarization is already happening. President Shits-his-pants is accelerating that.

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[–] taco_shale032@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 week ago (6 children)

They should consider LibreOffice if they don’t need cloud features.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Thing is, cloud features are very good for being productivity. And also for minimising mistakes, because you dont have multiple copies.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 40 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Long before clouds was a thing we had servers and local networks and shared drives. We still have servers and private vpns to connect to them to access shard drives.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago

I agree. "The cloud" is just the same shit but someone else is running it and it has a web based UI. There's also ways to make libreoffice collaborative too hiw m365 office is. We don't need it.

I called this over a decade ago. Embrace, extend, extinguish, now all the prices hike what seems like quarterly or biannually. Such a joke.

[–] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Sure, and maybe even some kind of suvversion system could lock one user out while the other is doing work, to avoid the kinds of conflicts that we're talking about here.

All of that is a hard sell versus the experience of dropping into a document and seeing three cursors all entering data collaboratively, a la Google Sheets.

And I'm writing this to someone that's trying to make myself at home using Grid raft, the vibecoded AI Slop Excel. If I had to share documents mid-production with anyone else at all, I would need something cloud-based.

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They can consider LibreOffice if they need cloud features, with collabora and nextcloud.

It's way more complicated to deploy rather than just paying $60/user/month for Microsoft 365 E5, but nextcloud and collabora sell commerciale support, others sell managed instances, Germany is selling opendesk as a saas, and al on

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[–] Pratai@piefed.ca 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kudos to the Netherlands, the Oranje made the correct decision.

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[–] Pulsar@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Oh my God! How are they going to work without MS Teams?

[–] Aufgehtsabgehts@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I love using MS Teams, because I hate getting work done.

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

Oh my god, how were they supposed to work WITH MS teams?

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[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 8 points 1 week ago

Ther's only two things I hate in this world, people who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the... no, wait! I love the Dutch!

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