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[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 79 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

A mountain goat is a goat, it's just not in genus Capra.

Fun trip and interesting trip through taxonomy, though, in addition to the gags. A collection of wikipedia articles would be a nice companion.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

it's just not in genus Capra

That's definitionally what goats are. It's close, being in the same subfamily, but then so are sheep.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 month ago (20 children)

I think words like "goat" should have a generic and unstudied applicability: if it looks like a goat, and acts like a goat, it's a goat.

A mountain goat looks like a goat and acts like a goat, therefore it is a goat.

A sheep neither looks like a goat, nor acts like a goat, therefore it is not a goat.

All semantics, of course. If you want to understand goat to mean "member of genus Capra", you certainly can. If you want me to make goat mean that, you're out of luck.

I'm willing to grant you the distinctions between goats and true goats, in deference to the science of biology. I am not a monster.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (14 children)

I'm willing to grant you the distinctions between goats and true goats, in deference to the science of biology.

Well that's my point: this post is about how common names contrast with actual, rigid taxonomical definitions. :p

Like the colloquial word "goat" fits, but your comment read to me, given the context of the post, like you were saying goats can exist outside Capra via a technical definition, which isn't true.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Yes, we don't disagree on the biology... I'm just emphasizing the nature of colloquial language as a crowdsourced effort and distinguishing it from the technical rigors of taxonomy.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait until you find out what a fish is.

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[–] Alawami@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

genus Capra

Ahh so thats what Capra Demon is

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 1 month ago

The goat head on the dude didn't give it away?

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[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 76 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Not sure what the original source of this was, other than an old tumblr post

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Here’s the original tumblr thread just in case

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Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my ragtime gal.

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[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Mayfly indeed may fly, give it a pass!

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)
  • Horseshoe crab – Not a crab.
  • Hermit crab – Not a crab.
  • King crab – Not a crab (but, in fact, a hermit crab).
  • Porcelain crab – Not a crab.
[–] remon@ani.social 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Camel spider - Not a camel, Not a spider.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Not only that, but horseshoe crabs are closer to camel spiders than they are to crabs – closer, in fact, than horseshoe crabs are to bees, which themselves are (recently) crustaceans.

Not sure why you got downvoted, btw; great example.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 16 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Coconut crab - Not a coconut

[–] remon@ani.social 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Cocconut tree - Not a tree

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[–] morto@piefed.social 12 points 1 month ago

Porcelain crab – Not a crab.

And not made of porcelain

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)
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[–] artifex@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

We’re headed toward a weird collision of memes, where everything becomes crabs, but nothing is one.

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[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It May Fly, but does it???

Does it????

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It does for a bit, and it’s more like a Junefly in my experience

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[–] spectrums_coherence@piefed.social 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So you are telling me that Mayfly may or may not fly?

[–] turbulentMagma@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Hmmmm... The guide didn't say the mountain goat isn't a mountain... So I guess I'll go catch me me own mountain!

[–] jadelord@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Hermit Crab - what kind of hermit would be so obsessed with real estate deals?

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Fascinating on King Cobras, I had no idea!

[–] LostCarcosan@lemmy.today 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's little known but true fact that snakes do, indeed, not recognize any monarchical systems at all!

[–] fargeol@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] everett@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

You don't vote for cobras!

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's well-known that snakes are right-wing libertarians.

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[–] West_of_West@piefed.social 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Prairie oyster: Not an oyster

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

See also: Rocky Mountain Oysters

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[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Forgot to include the Blue Tit

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They have blue on their head and back and are part of the Paridae family.

So they don't belong on the cartoon as they are both blue (at least in a large part) and tits.

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[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Classic. Love this one

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'm pretty sure when a snake has 'king' in it's name, that's because it eats other snakes.

Just like human kings do!

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 6 points 1 month ago

Snake: β€œWho voted for the Devour the Snakes party?”

Other snakes: β€œβ€¦ I thought they would only eat the snakes I dislike…”

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[–] vector42@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

How is no one talking about the mountain chicken?

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[–] Equinox1289@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Almost like those names were made for morphological categorization rather than a phylogenetic categorization where we use a completely different naming scheme.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 1 month ago

most south american "foxes" arnt true foxes, genus vulpes they have thier own lineages. new world porcupine isnt actually closely related to old world porcupine(different evolution ).

extinct american cheetah, wasnt actually a cheetah but a PUMA relative, a different species.

They're called Mountain Goats 'cause they're the GOAT.

[–] uderecife@piefed.world 6 points 1 month ago

The Eastern Kingbird may perhaps rule over the eastern part of the west.

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