Apparently genocide isn't actually bad as long as they give you money.
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Excuse me to be naive, but since democrats voted against slavery abrogation, how can it be seen as anything else than a far-right party?
Republican are clearly far-rightists too, ok... but still...
In case you're genuinely curious and not trolling, I'll explain. Parties in the US are not fixed around a particular ideology or set of stances, but have changed frequently throughout history and often take completely opposite positions from their past iterations. Many historians like to divide US political history into eras called party systems to indicate when parties are roughly cohesive and when they go through major changes, and during the civil war era we were in the Third Party System. During the third party system the Democratic party's base was made up primarily of white southerners (though there were northern supporters as well) and after the civil war they fought against Reconstruction in order to uphold white supremacy (the only issue that united Democratic voters in the north and south at the time).
Though there isn't consensus among historians yet, many consider us to be in the Seventh Party System now, so as you can imagine a lot has changed since then. I'll let you do your own reading on that topic.
Thanks, it makes it more clear...
Your initial take is not completely wrong though, democrats are a right wing party from a leftist perspective.
Republicans are openly racist, they believe in hierarchy based on race. Democrats of today aren't so racist, but both parties are classist. They believe in hierarchy of class, if you're rich enough you deserve healthcare and housing and good education and clean drinking water, and and and. If you're poor, they'll use you as a talking point, but they'll do whatever it takes to make it as difficult as possible to move up between classes.
32 of these are apparently up for re-election.
Any appropriate action to take here? As a North Carolinian, I’m stuck with Don Davis. I wonder if it’s any good to vote in these establishment Dems if they’re just going to go full GOP on us anyway. I’m not even sure if the alternative is going to be worse or better.
Fuck man, I wish 3rd parties were viable.
Yeah, ranked choice voting can help with this problem somewhat
You're gonna have to get rid of everyone in charge in order for that to happen though...
It's the House; all of them are up for re-election this year.
In my unprofessional opinion, it is better to force their loss sooner rather than later because it’s going to happen anyways with those people. We shouldn’t be voting for them because they don’t vote on our side regardless.
The issue now of course is that the GOP is literally bat shit insane evil when previously they were just bat shit insane on the dl evil and it would’ve been a lot better to do it this way.
But still, It has to happen.
I hear you man and unfortunately 3rd parties will never be viable with these kinds of Democrats around who won't support ranked choice or another system of voting.
If you have a couple of thousand like minded individuals, I'd say do a coordinated priest vote with a specific message of your refusing to vote for people who can't stand up to the GOP even for your 1st amendment rights like those in the Dearborn Abandon movement did.
Otherwise you'd just have to decide if it's worth it to you to hold your nose and slow walk the decent into fascism or go acceleration and live with the consequences of a quicker decent while continuing to fight for better candidates via progressives in the primaries. No real good options otherwise.
Plenty of independents have raised to power without running as a Democrat. Bernie is a prime example. The question is when people are fed up enough with the duopoly.
No they have not.
Sanders is an outlier as is King. Most others that have been in the independent banner like Murkowski or Lieberman were part of the two parties before.
Feel free to provide citations showing plenty of independents winning. I am just like you, waiting for the people to get fed up with the first past the shitty post but I don't have faith in Idiot America, both parties included.
Fuck every one of these mother fuckers.
So the other day I asked what the Republican-lite supporters excuse for Democrats once again saving Republicans and then also voting to condemn socialism and now this.
So what's the excuse du jour for supporting fascism? Literally voting to punish speech here, what's the excuse?
I mean, don't vote for them...
But not voting for anyone else with a D by their name because of these asshats, is just going to let these asshats take over the party.
Most Americans don't get to vote in any election that has any of them on a ballot.
Counterpoint, if we don't vote for these D then we end up with an R in their district which is just worse in every way.
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I’m guessing it’s not about fascist ideology, and more about those AIPAC paid vacations they’ve already packed their luggage for. Doesn’t change that they are a piece of shit, only if they have corn or peanuts.
Okay - I just made myself gag.
Brings to mind that saying about sitting for dinner with 9 Nazis right?
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