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Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.


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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Why does this title make it sound like they are upset?

This sounds better to me: EV batteries are lasting longer than many drivers expected.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Why does the car media ignore the known issues of control module and motor failures?

A Tesla battery might last 200K, the rest of the car is shit.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-musk-steering-suspension/

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 hours ago

But that's because it's a Tesla.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The article focused on the batteries of multiple EV manufacturers? Also the Tesla battery is still useful without the crappy car container. Just pull it out when the control module and motors fail, and use it as a battery backup. Sell the car for scrap, if they'll even pay for it.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

A Tesla battery might last 200K,

you do realize it's 2026, and tesla is no longer the only maker of EVs?

tbh, the media already lavishes way too much attention on musk and tesla.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago (28 children)

I’m not afraid of the batteries. My parents’ original Prius made it to 150,000 miles on the original pack before it was totaled in an accident.

I’m worried about all the electric gimmicks in the cabin breaking, and the cameras recording me and everyone else and selling the data, and getting into an accident because I had to swipe through five screens to adjust the temperature.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

My leaf just has buttons for all the things that normally have buttons. There is a touchscreen, but you can use buttons to control it.

Its possible but I think its cheaper to just use a screen, and we all know that nothing is more important than Line Go Up.

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Right! I'd go for an electric with none of those gimmicks (and non of all those mainenance-heavy ICE attachments) ... just an 80s-style cushy car with battery, radio & music player ... in a minute.

[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

yeah looking forward to the slate and the telo (it's so freakin cute!)

but prob will end up with the slate. now I have to find a 3d printer big enough to make body panels lol

[–] VinegarChunks@lemmus.org 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I mostly agree but there are two things I really want a car to have: adaptive cruise control and air conditioning pumped through the seats. And the thing is that everyone probably has two tech things they can’t live without, and everyone’s two things are different.

[–] jmill@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

Your two things are the same as my two things. Adaptive cruise control especially would be hard to give up at this point.

[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's not just electric cars, thats just included as fascism grows.

[–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (7 children)

It's actually just cheaper to build a screen then all the knobs. It makes economic sense for the company bottom line

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

But it's also the reason Teslur leads all brands in crash rates. EU is banning screen interfaces.

[–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago

Well EU car companies are also going bankrupt... Wonder why 🤔🤔🤔

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Yeah, we're at 110k miles on our original batteries (standard hybrid) and not seeing a significant drop in mileage yet. The dude at the dealership kept trying to convince me that the batteries would go bad every 40k and it'd be 8 large at least for a new battery. I wouldn't have bought new if I could have gotten that one damn feature I wanted used, and that damn safety feature has literally kept us out of accidents.

I still can't eat my lunch in the back seat in a parking lot without getting hit by a car though. Fucking wreck magnet I am.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's completely self proclaimed, but I'm a battery guy and electronics and automotive repair type of guy. Right down to rebuilding my gen 2 Prius battery that now has about 300,000 miles (482,000 km) on it, including when the original battery failed.

You should worry about both of those things if you're buying used.

Prius batteries last so long because they keep a pretty narrow charge\discharge range, despite the total batteries capacity.

But beyond that, the EV batteries in almost all the fully electric vehicles on the road don't have a km used until failure issue. They have an age issue. Lithium batteries have a shelf life, so to speak. It doesn't matter if the battery has 30,000 km on it or 300,000 km. None of them will last beyond 20 years before they start going bad and there's nothing you can do about it.

That being said, LifePO4 are absolutely the most chemically stable and long lasting lithium based battery currently in any EV's. if you're in the market for an older EV with a lithium battery, either plan on replacing the entire battery at some point (check how much it may cost you. Ranges from $6,000 to over $25,000 in some cases) or at least find one that uses LifePO4 as the battery.

Jury is still out on the semi solid state or solid state batteries. Sodium based batteries "should" outlast the vehicle they're in, but there aren't many in production outside of China yet and they aren't as energy dense so will typically be in shorter ranged vehicles.

It totally sucks that everything is littered with hard to get to and expensive to replace electronics they all use. It will be a pain trying to have a classic ev in the future when caps start leaking everywhere and you can't find replacement necessary to function touchscreens.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

None of them will last beyond 20 years before they start going bad and there’s nothing you can do about it.

there's a useful life for ev service, and there's a useful life after ev service. seeing these arrays being recycled for power storage is the way.

that said: good luck getting all the complex shit in an ICE car to last 20 fuckin years lol. something is gonna give. EVs seem complex, but it's far simpler than the array of shit needed to make gas blammo work as motive force for transport.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 hours ago

OMG. So first of all, I literally have two working ice vehicles right now that are over 20 years old.... So lol to how ignorant you are on the subject.

Which also flows right into old EV batteries being used for power storage. A 20 year old EV battery would be absolute dogshit for power storage. Like I said before, it isn't a cycle degradation issue as much as a time issue. The battery chemistry cause cell failure over time. It can't be meaningfully used for energy storage. The cells go BAD.

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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Feared? This is good news wTF is with the "feared"?

[–] homik@slrpnk.net 1 points 12 hours ago

I think it's the F in FUD. As in the fear that completely clueless people have. Like imagining that you absolutely must have trillion billion miles of range or you'll never get anywhere and people will laugh or something. That kind of fear.

[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 3 points 20 hours ago

Poorly worded headline

[–] Wfh@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Phrasing sucks. I think it means "consumers refuse to buy second-hand EVs because they fear that batteries would lose a shitton of capacity. Turns out, they're fine. The batteries, we mean."

Which is both good news (yay for good capacity on second-hand cars) and bad news (because EVs depreciate super fast and I'm counting on it to afford one, and may not depreciate as much anymore).

[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think the manufacturers and car salesmen fear it. Not the consumers.

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[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Now can they make one that doesnt look like shit

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