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Electric Vehicles

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Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.


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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

None of them will last beyond 20 years before they start going bad and there’s nothing you can do about it.

there's a useful life for ev service, and there's a useful life after ev service. seeing these arrays being recycled for power storage is the way.

that said: good luck getting all the complex shit in an ICE car to last 20 fuckin years lol. something is gonna give. EVs seem complex, but it's far simpler than the array of shit needed to make gas blammo work as motive force for transport.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OMG. So first of all, I literally have two working ice vehicles right now that are over 20 years old.... So lol to how ignorant you are on the subject.

Which also flows right into old EV batteries being used for power storage. A 20 year old EV battery would be absolute dogshit for power storage. Like I said before, it isn't a cycle degradation issue as much as a time issue. The battery chemistry cause cell failure over time. It can't be meaningfully used for energy storage. The cells go BAD.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

hey now let's leave the deities out of it....

you literally have two working ice vehicles that are 20 years old and haven't had anything changed / replaced?

like, there's components on both platforms that will need to be replaced eventually. brake pads. hvac coolant. I'd be amazed if your 20yr old ice vehicle had it's original alternator, water pump, etc.,

because the burning focus you're placing on the cells themselves is silly when you think about all the maintenance and repair / replacement an ICE vehicle will require.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Oh no. Not the little cheap repairs.

I do repairs myself. But engine coolant is like every 7 years and costs $40. Brakes are $50 every 5+ years. Fun fact, you're supposed to replace the coolant and may have to replace the coolant pump on EVs as well. They run liquid cooling for the battery and the inverter.

An alternator is typically sub $200 and takes like an hour to replace.

You skipped the most frequent thing. Oil changes.

None of that little stuff at all ads up to the ruining of value cost of a $15,000 battery going bad. I've been driving older vehicles for nearly 30 years. I know the costs pretty damned well. Most EVs are still more of a cost sink for regular people than a small ice vehicle that gets 35+ mpg. Tire changes are less frequent and cheaper. The upfront cost of an EV is more, the resell value is a bigger loss, and you're not saving that much in fuel unless you can charge your ev for free. It's getting pretty close to the tipping point, and it will get there, but it hasn't yet. Not unless you're in a country that gives you access to low cost Chinese made EVs.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

None of that little stuff at all ads up to the ruining of value cost of a $15,000 battery going bad.

lol keep moving the goalposts. your ice vehicle is gonna require way more repairs over it's lifetime, chump.

oh did you forget the point of it all? tho the costs are fucking cheap for each little component, your ice bullshit is going to destroy the ecosystem. goddamn every two minutes you petrol heads have to be reminded that your fucking fetish is killing us all.

GODDAMNIT WHY CAN'T EVERYTHING BE CHEAP LIKE THIS MASS PRODUCED PRODUCT THAT'S BEEN MADE IN THE BILLIONS FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS? WHAAAA

you fucking babies are going to kill us all

meanwhile, you know how much I spend to drive an EV 45 miles each way to work? $44, PER MONTH, and it's charged on solar and (if for some reason there's no sun for ages) hydro.

good luck getting that out of an ice car while you choke on the exhaust.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I've literally have over 20 year old vehicles and it literally has not cost me that much at all for any of them. Not even close. You aren't spending $15k on an ice vehicle unless your engine and transmission both need replaced and you're paying someone else to do it.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

i get it dude, you don't care lol.

your kids will tho. tsk.