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[–] regdog@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Facts that happen to be true" what kind of orwellian speak is this?

[–] Archimedes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Welcome to the future, it's post-truth here.

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 55 points 2 days ago

"facts that happen to be true" aka facts

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Wait. So china pointed out why data centers are bad and were right about it and people agreed?

That's a really weird ass "covert campaign".

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 282 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Damn the evil CCCCP and their nefarious plot to *checks notes* tell the truth

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 140 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The best propaganda is always the truth.

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 52 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Genuinely why I hate anti-america/anti-capitalism propaganda based off lies. You don't need to lie when just telling the truth is damning. The lies just undermine everything when they're exposed, makes people question even the facts.

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[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 31 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The best propaganda is always the truth.

When they shut down the RT America studio under the foreign agents law and direct TV intervention, they did interviews with the ex-RT dissident-esq reporters who were working there. I don't remember who, and who was interviewing, so take this with a grain of salt. When they were asked on the lines of how they felt working for Russian propaganda and information campaign. They said along the lines of that of all the networks they had worked on, they were never felt as free as when they worked on RT, and they were quite open that it was all part of bringing up narratives that would disrupt the American mainstream ones and create political disruption and doubt. Their handlers in Moscow knew that the best way to achieve this was just to give them reach and mostly uncensored platform and let them do mostly whatever they want, because they knew that just bringing out the truth was the most damaging thing to American establishment.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

they were never felt as free as when they worked on RT

I assume these reporters were not the ones reporting on the state of russia

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

~~mis~~information campaign

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 10 points 2 days ago
[–] hark@lemmy.world 132 points 3 days ago (2 children)

OpenAI has published a report

Into the trash it goes.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Free toilet paper 😃😃

[–] ButteredBread@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 days ago

Don't use that toilet paper, it's bad for you.

[–] gnate@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

From trash to trash, dust to dust

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Garbage in, garbage out

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 141 points 3 days ago (3 children)

So... So they ran an information campaign?

[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 82 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 12 points 3 days ago

Sigh... no, they don't actually.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Anyone saying anything true about the american tech industry, or about anything at all, could be a secret asset in the employ of the Chinese government. They can't be trusted.

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[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 59 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Those evil Chinese propagandists! How dare they… *flips through notes* tell the truth!?

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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 180 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"Facts that happened to be true"

Please, shut the fuck up. Fucking shut the fuck up. I am at the end of my wits with this place.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

As opposed to, what, facts that aren't true? Those aren't facts at all.

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

"Alternative facts"

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 20 points 3 days ago

As opposed to just calling them facts because they are.

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[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Another beacon of truth from the company of Sam Altman, known for his honesty and forthrightness

[–] Solrac@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

"These dirty commies! Making everyone woke with their factually correct propaganda! They just want lil ol me to not have my american dream!"

[–] Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sam Altman seems to be a massive cunt

[–] mgrecca2026@lemmy.zip 22 points 3 days ago (5 children)

He raped his younger sister

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 66 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The real story is not about Chines influence on data center opinion.

Its openai reading conversations of their customers.

I mean we all already assumed they do before but this is so blatend, it smells like manufactured consent. You need to go from “suspect it happens” to “its normal to be like this”

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't think China cares about US that much ngl.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly I wouldn't doubt that they do, supposedly leaders both ours and theirs see us as being in a sort of cold war space race style AI race, and I guess that effectively means we are.

But I for one didn't need their campaign to hate what I can see for myself is an issue, murderbots, surveillance, and dumbing down people further have always been things that I think are "bad."

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[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I mean, in the context of AI development itself, there's the possible angle that China/Chinese AI companies would do this to attempt to slow down American based AI development in an effort to surpass them, but...yeah seems pretty goofy tbh.

They're clearly trying to claw at anything to redirect attention from data centers fucking everyone over.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 days ago

China already won the game. Their models are on par with Americans and much cheaper.

We can't compete based even just on energy costs.
I use deepseek API and honestly I just don't care about token costs cuz it's so cheap.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Their proof is a couple accounts in China asked the chatbot how to convince Americans to not want datacenters in their backyard...

If I asked a chatbot how to convince someone to not like getting punched in the dick, them not wanting to get punched in the dick doesn't mean there's a grand conspiracy and that's why Bob got mad after being punched in the dick.

Bob didn't need anyone to tell him not to like getting punched in the dick to have that response.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Yeah this is why everyone hates sam altman and not because he's just going around saying that AI companies are worth more than the entirety of planet earth combined.

[–] vegafjord@slrpnk.net 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why the fuck make up lies for your propaganda when you dont have to.

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[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Ugh, people with those pesky facts, very inconvenient! /s

[–] BOplaid@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

PRC ain't good but this is absurd. Fuck ClosedAI

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They asked ChatGPT about how to influence Americans views on AI, apparently.

Sure thing.

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[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 days ago

Thanks China

[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

So we wre listening to OpenAI on this one? Sure prove any of this you lying sack of shit Sam Altman. All these pyschos running companies.

#stoplisteningtoceos

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago

OpenAI still acts like there are absolutely none Chinese LLM. Sounds more like a fever dream. I wonder if they also did the exact checks on American user accounts and I am quite certain you will also see hundreds of Americans prompting the same thing.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 days ago

Can I just say that the fact openai just reads our chats....
It is just that I feel like the general public does not fully comprehend it

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Fun Fact: the American Govt. has okay'ed giving China GPU's now that they get a cut of the profits. 🙄

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

I’m sure it was China and not the fact that AI is causing layoffs, increased prices, and harm to our communities.

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