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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

That little top part (冎) is the how it was originally drawn. It's supposed to look like a bone. It's more pronounced in the earlier drawings.

The bottom part (which is the kanji for moon and month) as a radical often means something like "flesh", and is present in the kanji for body parts.

So I don't think the whole thing was intended to be the pictograph of a skellington, or at least can't say for sure.

[–] jdr@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

That's what all 203 of my bones look like anyway

[–] chellomere@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

a skellington

[–] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

So one the unique things about 月 is it contains several other character depending the context. In this case, 月 represents 肉 or flesh. My interpretation of the character is the bones that suspends flesh.

Here's more context specific transformations of 月 in other characters

[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 0 points 1 month ago

Looks like a Dalex

[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm no expert, but it was described to me years ago by native Chinese speakers that many of the characters are written like that 🤩 "Man", "woman", "cart", "gate/door", etc. Pictograph origins🖖🏼.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

heres those kanji for reference:

Person: 人

Man: 男

Woman: 女

Cart: 車

Gate: 門

[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think the lower part カ I think means power, so field power, ie. A man has the power to plow a field

[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah! I had them mixed up, as sword seems a very close relative: 刀 vs. カ

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Isn't that Waymo? 🤪 Ah, good ol' End/Not Future. What a prescient malaprop.

[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

黽 黾

měng is a Chinese character for frog or toad

another one i'm a bit blown away by but might not be totally accurate

Guo, for dog, is like a dog lieing down, 犭, the character for mouth, 口 and the character meaning 'wrap' 勹, like your arms wrapped around your mouth talking to a dog, who obviously understands you

I also really like

kàn meaning 'to look', which is the character for hand 手 above the character for eye 目 🫡

I've been practaticing a lot this year and I'm finally starting to get some of this to click

[–] pianoplant@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Odd that the 'head' is mirrored. The real kanji is 骨。agree it looks like a lil skeleton guy though.

[–] nagaram@piefed.social 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Am I loosing it?

It looks the same. Not mirrored at all

[–] CyberSeeker@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Here is an example of stroke order, showing the phone kanji is backwards.

https://jitenon.com/kanji/%E9%AA%A8

[–] gid@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

Thank you! I couldn't work out how it was backwards when every version I saw of it looked the same.

[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

Losing*, ironically. 😜

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

No, they're tightening it.

[–] dosboy0xff@infosec.pub 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a Unicode CJK variant. There are a bunch of characters that Unicode considers to be the same character but with small regional differences (e.g. how it's written in Mainland China vs. Taiwan vs. Japan vs. Korea, etc.). Since the region isn't encoded in the character, you're seeing whatever your system locale and font default to. For web pages, you can specify the region inside the HTML or HTTP headers and hopefully you get the correct character rendering, but that also requires you to have a font installed that includes the variant.

https://www.typotheque.com/articles/understanding-cjk-regional-character-variants

[–] pianoplant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Fascinating, thanks!

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

Weird, both versions seem to exist.

Wiktionary

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Google translate shows the character backwards, for some reason.

[–] pianoplant@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seems simplified Chinese uses that version. But Kanji is Japanese.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Japanese: 骨

Simplified: 骨

[–] Andonome@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Try ⾻ (ideograph U+2FBB) vs. 骨 (CJK "bone" used in Asian Typography, different Asian fonts may show differently).

screenshot table from Wikitionary

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Probably a Japanese or Korean font. 過 probably shows up on the right as well for you.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Samsung phone, would make sense.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Weird, on my phone the character rendered like it is in the picture

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

Well, how do you think most ideographics were created? Graphical representation of an idea.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

A lot of characters in Asian languages look like the thing the symbol represents. Can't remember which language it was, but it has characters for "house," "home," and "family" that all look like slight variations to a simple drawing of a house.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

There are thousands of Asian languages. Chinese and Japanese are the only languages that still use a logographic system. Korean also uses Chinese characters but only for special purposes, like academia.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

yeah that's what gets me, like it would make getting context easy, but remembering which fine detail just won't stick in my head.

[–] Impractical_Island@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

New Binding of Isaac familiar just dropped.

[–] lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] jdr@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Nm, what's bone witchu?

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Reminds me of the early vaporwave artist called 骨架的

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tD064_ifO7w

[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 points 1 month ago

Almost White Wolf Hermetic Forces

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why would you lie about that

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] smh@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago

NGL=not gonna lie