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[–] anyhow2503@lemmy.world 66 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I really hate the sentiment that you must be under the influence of something to reach a certain level of creativity. Some artists have found success with this and that's fine, but it is not a requirement. Not even for the most surreal and otherworldly art.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Also there are other ways to poke that side of brain. Most of the good abstract art I write was under sleep derivation.

Then again, I mainly write code, but it was still up to interpretation what that snippet is supposed to do.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I write my best when I’m depressed. I’m okay with finding alternative routes for that, though weed isn’t one of them. I find weed helps me when I’m doing visual art, but when writing? Weed practically renders me incapable.

I now understand why writers’ usual substances of choice are alcohol and caffeine.

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Redbull and vodka for devs XD.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Except alcohol, that doesn't make pretty code.

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is a short time when you are drunk enough to be direct and witouth inhibition and boosted enough I guess. Have to live on the edge.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Relevant xkcd.

The graph shows programming skill goes down with blood alcohol concentration except for a very short place where it shots up before going back down again. It's called "ballmers peak" and it was discovered by microsoft in 80s as programming skills reached inhuman pevels with BAC between 0.129 and 0.130Of course you cannot just give a team coders some year-supply of whiskey it's a "delicate effect" as the researcher puts it.One curious member among the crowd asks "has that every happened." Researcher "remember windows me?" The audience member gets up from their seat to shout "I knew it." The end.

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 4 points 3 weeks ago

I noticed the same, when tired my brain take shortcuts and is far better at fast solving, but I lack the long view in this state. Brains are amazingly interesting.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

also shakespeare is incredibly specific. the example I like to use is the famous

"Friends, Romans, Countrymen, Lend me your ears!"

Which takes place in a crowded marketplace.

Count the syllables: 1 (friends), 2, (romans), 3 (countrymen), 4 (lend me your ears)

it's a line in which the meter matches the intent - attracting attention in a big group.

Bill will also often add an eleventh unstressed syllable to his dialogue lines if he wants a character to seem vulnerable or weak, indicating they have fallen off meter because of their inner thoughts

very occasionally he does an eleventh STRESSED syllable when a character is being especially dominating and murderous.

The other famous examples is when a peasant or very low status character speaks, it won't be in verse at all, but plain prose.

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[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Dépend, if you are ADHD canabis is an amazing way to increase the symptom and trigger an hyperfocus while going at 200% on all directions, great for a créativity boost. Whole reducing canabis and increasing active plant like caféine help reduce the symptom and make it easy to speak to neuro-typical. May be he had ADD or ADHD and used this to trigger what was called creative transe. My bad I missed the no requirement part. Yeah I join you on the sentiments, but I am not convinced artist need drug to create, like you are.

[–] neograymatter@fedinsfw.app 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

THC reacts strangely with my ADHD, It triggers some sort of dysphoria where I end up frustrated and angry that my brain/body isnt acting the way I want it to respond .

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

I have had different experiences with smoking (which I dropped entirely) vs gummies. Gummies (any edible really) tend to take effect very slowly over the course of an hour and the high is much more calm than any joint I ever smoked. It lends itself well to creative sessions : as long as I'm able to get started, I don't stop easily.

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[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Interesting that the effects are so different for each brain. When smoking I am not able to filter as well, I dunno of the filtering part slow or the idea part of my brain go faster. It make me have pint of vue different of mine on subjects. Which is interesting.

[–] MJKee9@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

For me it opens up possibilities that my sober brain doesn't consider because my sober brain filters and edits things based on assumptions. So i sometimes miss details when sober because my subconscious brain dismissed those details as unimportant. Most of the time, that filtering process is a positive part of decision-making. I should be ignoring certain variables because knowledge and experience identified those details as a waste of time. However, on weed, i consider things i wouldn't have considered because that filtering process is lessened. So most of my stoned thoughts are worthless, but every once in a while i realize something that i was missing because my brain was ignoring that important detail when sober. It's great when I haven't been able to figure out that day's Wordle....or i realize why someone was pissed at me.

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[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

so you're saying i should stop drinking coffee when I wake up and instead just smoke a bowl? I feel like I'm not as creative as I used to be, and my drug of choice has been coffee for the past 15 years...

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

Prior to transitioning I always said the two substances by brain required to function were cannabis and either caffeine or adderal, stimulant+weed kept me functioning tolerably even when I really didn't feel like it. Now estradiol is on the list too lol

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 43 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Hemp was very common back then for many uses. Cannabis does not automatically mean THC.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

It does mean that though, even low potency stuff like the plants they grow specifically to make rope still have varying levels of cannabinoids in them including THC, also that's literally the only reason to bother smoking it, might as well pack a bowl with hay otherwise

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, in the context of a clay pipe, the evidence suggest mary Jane, not hemp cloth.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago

Ohhh pipe not plumbing pipe

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Ignoramus here: what's the difference?

[–] UNY0N@feddit.org 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The cannabis plant when left to itself doesn't create much THC (which is what gets you high), but it is very useful for making rope and clothing, as well as oil and other products. Only when you make sure that you only have female plants (and take care of them in a certain way) do they produce lots of THC.

So just because the plant is growing somewhere doesn't mean that someone is smoking it.

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[–] Rothe@piefed.social 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The active drug part of the plant is the resin found at the flowers of the female hemp plant, created during pollination season. There is neglible amounts of THC in the rest of the plant, as in basically nothing. So you would only get high if you smoked that particular part of the plant, not the rest. So sailors could have saved on tobacco by using the dried leaves of the harvested hemp plants they imported for rope, but it wouldn't have made them stoned in the slightest.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yes but it was found in clay pipes. I.e. smoking pipes. For whatever reason it was being smoked there.

Your sailor analogy is a possible explanation, but it doesn't make as much sense in a home or domestic setting.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It might not have gotten them as high as modern weed but it definitely still would have worked, they're not gonna smoke it for no reason

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah it has been suggested it was used for medicinal purposes as early as 1 BCE. I have a feeling they’d have discovered how to make it stronger in the ensuing 1500 years.

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[–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

So he was smoking hemp?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago

Sorry, I read it as plumbing pipe for some reason.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I always hated Shakespeare, mostly because of how it’s taught.

Imagine reading about Quinten Tarantino in the future, they study his methods, his dialogue and cinematography, but they hand you his screenplays and ask you to analyze them. Not once actually showing you one of his movies.

In high school they tried to make me read all that nonsense and I had no idea what any of it meant. As an adult i saw a play as it was meant, and it gave me much more context and visual understanding. I still don’t get why he wrote like that, I prefer clear language over poetry, but I at least appreciated it way more than i did as a kid being forced to read

[–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 14 points 3 weeks ago

Reading Shakespeare is torture. That is why we make actors do it for us.

[–] Forester@pawb.social 6 points 3 weeks ago

It was written in prose so it could be memorized and to hide injendos and jokes.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

Do you think the future teachers will have a section dedicated to feet in Tarantino movies??? 🤨

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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Drugs were always very common through all the history, Cannabis was used until the 20th century as "tobaco for the poor", apart of Cannabis also funghi and other psycho active plants known in Europe in the middle age and before, eg by artists as inspiration.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 6 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Cannabis was used until the 20th century as “tobaco for the poor”

No, it wasn't.

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[–] Yosmonkol@piefed.social 21 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait, how can that be right? Shakespeare had access to coca leaves and was smoking them? I know it's not literally impossible but it seems unlikely...

[–] Yosmonkol@piefed.social 9 points 3 weeks ago

Francis Thackeray, in his 2025 article, suggests Sir Francis Drake could have acquired it when sailing in the area. Since traces of it were also discovered in 1600s Milan its possible that the spanish were circulating it. This 2024 study discusses how the Spanish at least knew of it as early as 1499.

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[–] Draconic_NEO@mander.xyz 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah before people in America made a big stink about it and said it'lll turn you crazy or into a mexican, or whatever racist unscientific garbage excuse they made to start a moral panic to make it illegal, people smoked or otherwise consumed cannabis. It was just normal. The same way people consume drugs like coffee today, yes coffee is a drug.

[–] DioramaOfShit@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

It was the blacks getting the white women high that did it

[–] Rivermoonwolf@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

As a former poet, this is 10000% accurate

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

i'm not what you'd call a poet, i handle the instruments, but i have this thing where for example the word for cat gets stuck between your brain and your tongue so you say claws cuddler or something like that (sorry, coffee is brewing you don't get a good one yet) and when a good one pops out you get good poetry. i blame the drugs.

[–] JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

Weed ---> iambic pentameter

[–] psud@aussie.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago

Pot isn't like opium. Most people can use pot occasionally and be sober most of the time, it's probably less common for someone to become a pothead than for a drinker to become dependant on booze

Many people in all walks of life and all social statuses enjoy getting stoned occasionally

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

How many millions of brilliant people have been executed over the drug war? Depending on how you classify "drug war" (like the wars over opium, or chocolate for that matter), they have been murdering people over this for centuries (whether to push or pull).

... and they still do today. It's an abomination, our modern version of the witch hunt.

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