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[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

When your nation falls apart and your city becomes an extensive warzone for years, the main power grid probably isn't top notch. But the sun works just fine!

[–] huppakee@piefed.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They can still go all out on solar, it's not like they're pumping all that oil for themselves only

[–] YellowParenti@lemmy.wtf 0 points 4 months ago (6 children)

there is the idea of exporting solar from Morocco to UK.

There's others where it's proposed to build a a high voltage line from Morocco to Spain, France, Germany. Eventually, they'll upgrade the grid to be able to move power from one region to another.

Same thing in the states, southern states generate for the north in the winter and in the summer the north to the south to help with high demand from AC.

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[–] antrosapien@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

If god would like us all to have unlimited free energy, wouldn't he put a giant nuclear reactor in sky

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] artifex@piefed.social 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Plant some more trees and rooftop gardens and you’ve got an official Solarpunk setting

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[–] swagmoney@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago

all hail the sun 🖐️☀️🖐️

[–] eingfoan@infosec.exchange 0 points 4 months ago
[–] DivineDev@piefed.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's probably driven by an unreliable power grid, but still great. A lot of solar should help getting a proper grid online anyways

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago

as unreliable as ERCOT?

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if the black panels increase the urban heat island effect.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Interesting question. From what I can gathered from this nature study on that, it seems that solar farms can increase ambient temperature compared to an area with some vegetation, which may be due to the panel preventing the ground from irradiating heat as effectively (by like, bouncing it off the back of the panel) and removing the vegetation that cools the area from evaporation.

But I think on a rooftop that may not have as much thermal mass as the ground, it may not have that effect, and overall should lessen the cooling needs of a building somewhat due to the shade the panels provide, and due to them not getting quite as hot as an shielded roof, since they do reflect some infrared energy despite their dark color.

tl:dr, probably not much or at all since they're on a rooftop, and if it does, it could probably be mitigated by planting more trees and vegetation in the city. But that's mostly an educated guess.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

are they solar water heaters or electric panels?

[–] livligkinkajou@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago

You can see both. Water heaters usually have a tank right behind or above them and it has a silvery tint to it. Blue hued ones are mostly electric panels

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago

They appear to all be PV (electric) panels. The best value for this time and area.

[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How similar most of the panels are makes me think someone there's actually doing distributed infrastructure right :)

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 0 points 4 months ago

Yep, Bob is making a killing selling them out of his truck.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 0 points 4 months ago (5 children)

And STILL I hear dumb shits in the US say "solar isn't feasible"

Motherfuckers then why does literally every other country have tons of solar plants, rooftop installations, balcony installations and some packed away they can pull out when the power cuts out? Why do major companies put massive solar farms next to their new factories? Why are people interested in fossil fuels spending so much goddamn money telling people solar sucks? If it sucked, people wouldn't use it.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because oil people don't make money from solar.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 0 points 4 months ago

They do make money from solar. Just not enough to their liking.

Returns on investments in fossil fuels typically range between 10-20 percent, while for a renewables project, 5-8 percent is the norm, Reuters reported in June 2023. “It’s also about the volatility of profitability,” Christophers says. Meanwhile, if the price of the feedstock falls, that usually means fossil fuels are cheaper – and thus the level of profitability can still be maintained. Renewable energy projects in contrast must contend with costs which are largely upfront and have to be met regardless of fluctuations in electricity prices. That makes investment riskier – and therefore costlier, cutting profitability. (source)

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I see solar panels pretty often in the US rural county I live in

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 0 points 4 months ago

I live in rural Ohio and actually live fairly close to a decent sized solar farm.

Over the last 2-3 years I've seen more household solar setups, and one person I'm super jealous of has a really nice wind turbine/solar hybrid system with a garage battery wall visible when they leave their garage door open.

We're very slowly getting there, but it's like running a race with a weight around your ankle and people swinging at you with bats.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago

I just let them spout off for as long as they want. Then I calmly tell them I haven't paid an electric bill for over five years. Whatever their argument was is moot.

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[–] Snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 4 months ago

Impressive, thank for sharing this amazing picture 😳👍

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

This will be a sort of "duh" moment in human history, won't it.

[–] Linearity@piefed.zip 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Implements taxes on solar energy

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago

Citizen, you have an outstanding debt for the 2 hours of sunlight you've enjoyed yesterday.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

Offtopic:

An usually

This feels odd, it seems like proper English, with the An since the next word starts with a vowel, but something about it feels off and I might be too dumb to realize what it is.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

because while “usually” starts with a ‘u’, we typically pronounce it as if it started with a ‘y’

[–] GoodStuffEh@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago

I think it's because "usually" starts with a Y consonant sound (yoo-sually), instead of a vowel sound

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

It's because it's a typo, and supposed to be "an UNusually...."

And the "a vs an" rule is more based on the sound that the word starts with, rather than just the actual letter.

So for "usually", it's a "You-" sound

But for "unusually" it's an "Uh-" sound

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That makes so much more sense, thanks!

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 months ago

🎉 Glad to be able to help 👍

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago

Definitely was a typo on my part!

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

It’s odd because wide adoption of rooftop solar is still unusual, so I think the wrong word was used. It should read:

“An unusually wide adoption of rooftop solar…”

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Because the u in usually is pronounced like the consonant y, like “yew”. We use “a” before consonant sounds.

The u in unusually is pronounced like the vowel sound u, like “uh”. We use “an” before vowel sounds.

This is because two vowel sounds in a row is somewhat awkward and doesn’t flow as easily with how you live your mouth to pronounce things. Using “an” puts an extra consonant sound in between the two vowel sounds.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

You guys this makes Coalie cry 😩 🪨

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago

At first I thought those were parking garages but then those look like balconies, but the one on the right has windows. Interesting buildings. I wonder what a unit looks like.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

oh cool, maybe they did this cause a long time ago during the civil war there was frequent power cuts?

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[–] rimu@piefed.social 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

In Google maps you can use satellite mode to look at their roofs. There are some panels but nothing like this.

[–] LikeableLime@piefed.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Google Earth has data up through June 27, 2024. Check around the Salloum Hospital and Syrian Arab Red Cross Hospital. That area around the hospitals and to the NNE looks like nearly every roof has panels. Could also be a more recent picture and more panels may have been installed in the past year or two.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My Google Maps says 2026 on the bottom of it.

I've highlighted the solar panels I could see, around Salloum Hospital:

image

It's great to see so many but it's way more scattered and patchy than in the OP photo.

[–] LikeableLime@piefed.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hmm my Google Maps shows the same 2026 date but when I compare to the Google Earth June 27, 2024 images I'm seeing the same cars in the same exact spots, like the white car right outside of the Syrian Arab Red Crescent Hospital

[–] rimu@piefed.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ahh, so maybe on Google Maps that's just a copyright statement rather than really when the imagery was taken. So I'm looking at quite old information.

[–] LikeableLime@piefed.social 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That may be correct, I always thought that was the date the imagery was taken, but I typically go to Earth first because you can easily scrub back and forth along the timeline. Interestingly, if you go back to the 2023 images you can see that 2024 was a big year for solar already. That pace continuing into 2025 and 2026 could definitely result in the area looking like the image in the OP. Wish we had location data from the original so we could see when and where it was taken as I'm super curious now. And its a slow day at work so I have time to dig around lol

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[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Eventually we'll so be doing this out of necessity. Just not any time soon, not until something big breaks.

[–] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Well things are all going great. Can't imagine anything breaking. Can't imagine electrical grids getting overwhelmed from infrastructure neglect and a surge in demand or fossil fuels becoming scarce or their flows being interrupted. When was the last time any of that stuff happened?

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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Strait of Hormuz is something big.

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[–] dansemacabreingalone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Oh hey, something not completely depressing!

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