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[–] paulcdb@lemmy.world 178 points 1 week ago (88 children)

This is how you tell rich people have some serious mental health issue.

Decent people would rather a world where people worked because they enjoy that type of work rather than being forced to do it because they need money to live.

If you removed money, imagine where we'd all be as a society without the toxicity of money, wars and hate! :(

[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 37 points 1 week ago (15 children)

If you removed money, imagine where we’d all be as a society

Probably dead or living in the stone age.

There's so many jobs that people don't enjoy but are necessary. Nobody enjoys working in the middle of an australian desert at 40°C in a lithium mine. Nobody enjoys collecting your stinking trash. Nobody enjoys sitting in a store for 8 hours a day, scanning groceries. Nobody enjoys working in a warehouse for 8 hours.

However, these jobs and many more are vital for todays society.

toxicity of money, wars and hate!

You make it sound like wealth and wars are an invention of capitalism and not something that has existed basically since the dawn of time, even as something you can observe in primates, albeit on a much smaller scale.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

The reasons those jobs are such shit is also money. A lot of people enjoy cleaning, nobody enjoys being overworked. Normal functioning societies don't leave heaps of stinking trash around, they neatly pack it and the work of a janitor of garbage collector becomes actually enjoyable if you're a proper type of personality.
Hell, my uncle right now works as a part time street sweeper basically for free. He has his basic needs met by other means, and his "job" pays him enough to get a cup of coffee before the shift and a sandwich after. He just enjoys making the world cleaner, chatting with locals, taking care of stray cats, and having a routine. All of that is possible in a world that doesn't revolves around squeesing every bit of labour from people so some pedos can buy themselves another island and fill it with sex slaves

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I would gladly fix and assemble home appliances as hobby if I didn't have to worry about money.

[–] musubibreakfast@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hell, I'd teach for free if I didn't have to worry about rent.

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[–] homes@piefed.world 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

All of these people have motives… Their motives simply aren’t money

[–] abysmalpoptart@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I do believe this was the message that was intended to be conveyed by the post itself

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[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hence: without profit motive.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They lock essential things (e.g. food, water, shelter, medical services, etc.) behind a paywall because they know it is not true that people do not always---or even usually---want money.

But people do need essentials to live, and if they're the only ones who can give you money to get those, then they can order you to do what they want instead.

[–] jeniferariza@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Turns out passion, curiosity, and purpose are way stronger motivators than profit ever was 😅

[–] percent@infosec.pub 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It depends on the person. I've known people who are much more motivated by money. Some of them ended up in prison, some are doing quite well, and some are still trying.

Honestly, I sometimes wish I were more money-motivated. I'm very lucky that my passion happens to earn a good salary (for now), but I gave up my business for it.

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[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Imagine an Internet where services are provided to make our lives better, not just to turn a profit.

Imagine a world where automation didn't take away our livelihood, but helped us to spend more time doing what we wanted to do.

Imagine a world where food, water, shelter, education and healthcare was available to everyone, not paywalled.

This world is possible. We can get there. If heaven exists, we must create it here on earth.

Organize, protest and elect. Emphasis on organize and protest.

  1. Get as involved as you can with activist efforts locally.
  2. Organize, network, focus on building solidarity. Join or form a union. Join the IWW.
  3. Vote at primaries and elections for the best candidate, even if you doubt they can win.
  4. Don't punch down.
  5. Don't punch left.
  6. Educate yourself, politically.
  7. Push for voting reform and for anything that breaks the two-party system

How does capitalism inevitably lead to fascism?

Basically, the issue with capitalism is that the more wealth you have, the easier it is for you to make more money. And since money can be used to buy goods, services and influence, there is always a way to use money to gain more political and social power. With that political and social power, you can push society and the legal system in the direction you want to go. So you can use your wealth to gain power, and then you can use your power to change laws and society so that you can make even more wealth and power. It’s a positive feedback loop.

Obviously, though, if the billionaires and ruling class are accumulating more and more of our society’s wealth, that inevitably means that there’s less for everyone else to go around - therefore, working class people feel poorer and poorer. Meanwhile, the economy is going absolutely great for rich people, so inflation continues to go up - everything gets more expensive, but wages don’t increase. The wealthy just keep more and more of the wealth for themselves. To accumulate more and more wealth, they change the laws so that they can avoid paying taxes, so public services collapse. Politicians are lobbied to ensure that public funds are diverted away from where it is most needed - housing, healthcare, transportation, infrastructure - and instead into industries where their class interests most benefit from it, such as weapons manufacturing and extractive industries such as fossil fuels and mining.

The working class are bound to notice that their lives are getting shittier and shittier, and if that situation is left unchecked, the working class would realize that the ruling class are fucking them over, rise up, and overthrow their rulers. Obviously, the ruling class need to do something about this, but there’s no solution that the ruling class can offer. They’re causing all of the problems, to fix them they’d have to give up some of their wealth and power - and that’s not something they’re going to do. So they need to find someone else to blame the problems we have in society on. Unfortunately, though, no matter who they blame the problems on, and no matter what they do to “fix” it, the issue will continue to persist, because the material conditions underlying the issues are, very intentionally, never addressed.

So, the conundrum returns: The ruling class said that minority A caused all of the problems, minority A is persecuted and oppressed, but society doesn’t actually get any better. Either the problem wasn’t minority A, or minority A just hasn’t been oppressed enough yet. So the ruling class can either escalate the oppression, or they can shift the focus to another minority group. The division continues to escalate in terms of how vitriolic and extreme it is, and it also continues to divide the working class into smaller and smaller groups.

To get the working class to buy into this hateful message, they need to take advantage of our worst instincts, and one of those instincts is the in-group bias. The majority are manipulated into being suspicious, then intolerant, then hateful, then violent, then genocidal, towards whatever the targeted minority of the day is. Anything that can be used to divide the working class - sexuality, nationality, immigration status, ethnicity, religion, sex, gender identity, age, all of these will be used as wedges to keep the working class split apart and not working together, because they know that if the working class actually unite against them, they are completely and truly fucked.

That’s exactly how fascism manifests. It’s because it’s possible for people to accumulate power through wealth. This is why capitalism must be abolished. If we do not abolish capitalism, fascism will always return. It’s just a matter of time.

[–] G3NI5Y5@europe.pub 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The fantasy-story of profit motive: Without capitalism, people are just lazy, unproductive and die eventually. But with capitalism, there is great innovation, motivation and excitement.

Cool story, but absolute nonsense.
It's a few bad players that are extremely greedy who ruin the whole game for everyone else. Most people don't want to be that rich, they just want to live without starving to death, being healthy and have a roof over their head.

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[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 27 points 1 week ago

It's one of those "every accusation is a confession". People are thinking about themselves when talking about others.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Volunteer firefighters do actually still get paid a lot of the time.

Source: Was volunteer firefighter. Was paid per-call.

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[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm convinced people who believe that are some of the biggest shit stains on the planet.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Personally, I was one of the people who used to believe that, because I was born and raised in a society that taught me that since birth. I can totally understand that there are people out there who still believe it, and I do everything I can to try and bring them up to speed. It's hard to unlearn everything you have learned, especially if you've already made big, irreversible decisions in your life based around the lies you believed. I think the key is to try and find common ground, and to empathize with people, even when they're not acting their best. I believe nearly everyone is redeemable.

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Maybe the problem in our society is the people who are only motivated by profit.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Capitalism and so called meritocracy have brainwashed humanity.

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[–] menas@lemmy.wtf 21 points 1 week ago

"Without the fear of poverty, no one would be submissive "

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (17 children)

My Minecraft survival world is awesome, but I think in this context "productive" is usually referring to, you know, farming and stuff.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Its a thing!

Honestly if people didnt need to take the first job they could under threat of homelessness i truly believe enough people will just end up doing everything we need done out of the sheer need to do something

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[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I think it serves as an illustration that people will do difficult and tedious computer work for reasons other than money it specifically being Minecraft isn’t really the point to me

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[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Volunteer firefighters are paid pretty damn well while 20 of them stand around a car wreck at 2am.

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[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

The studies about intrinsic vs. extrinsic motivation suggest otherwise, and that monetary rewards can even have a negative impact on productivity and creativity. Ultimately, we want a society of intrinsically motivated people doing their best, most inspired work, not a society following financial incentives.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Doing what we can to bring the light of anti-capitalism to your feed while still keeping it light and breezy big guy!

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