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I was running through some old Portal 2 quotes in my head and realized that it Cave Johnson were a real person, people would absolutely hate him.

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[–] Pistcow@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 15 points 11 months ago

Jesus with the caviat of who specifically would hate him.

[–] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

People would hate the real time moralising, but would love free wine and would be amazed by his party tricks, like walking on water. That was pretty cool!

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[–] missingno@fedia.io 54 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The entire cast of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

We enjoy watching them because they are horrible people who never really succeed at what they are trying to do. I don't think anyone would want to hang out with them.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (3 children)

That was basically the premise of Seinfeld.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Seinfeld characters are whimsical. This not true of Its Always Sunny where they are at best, degenerates.

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[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

IASIP was marketed as "Seinfeld on crack"

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[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I love this show and can confirm, they are the worst

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 53 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

I think Fry would be kind of annoying too.

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I know plenty of people like him

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Besides Cthulhu?

Every trickster god like Loki, Q, Miss Frizzle…

[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Don’t forget bugs bunny

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 34 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Willy Wonka may not be hated, but he would definitely be vilified. There is no way a candy maker who refused to allow inspectors into his factory would be allowed to sell candy to the general public.

Plus, under the current administration, ICE would break in and forcibly deport (kidnap) all the Ommpa Loompas.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Plus, under the current administration, ICE would break in and forcibly deport (kidnap) all the Ommpa Loompas.

Would trump deport them for not being white, save them for being orange, or leave them there because they're already slaves?

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 19 points 11 months ago

lol now THAT’S a brainteaser

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

Wonka is arguably guilty of slavery and even if he didn't kill four kids, he at least traumatized four kids. And he laid off all his workers, leading some of them to become impoverished.

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[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Sheogorath from elder scrolls is a fan favorite, but I'd hazard to say no one wants to live in a universe with a cheese obsessed mad god that regularly dicks with humans for fun.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

Sheohorath gets pretty fucking dark.

At that same moment, a young woman nearby commented wistfully to herself, "The sounds of the birds are so beautiful."

Sheogorath silently agreed with her. Mortals could not make the beautiful and inspired calls of birds. Their voices were wretched and mundane. He could not change the nature of mortals, for that was the purview of other Daedric Princes. However, he could give them tools to make beautiful sounds.

Sheogorath took hold of the petulant woman and ripped her asunder. From her tendons he made lutes. From her skull and arm bones he made a drum. From her bones he made flutes. He presented these gifts to the mortals, and thus Music was born.

[–] Sergio@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was genuine, but given the state of the world today I think an unstable deity of madness and whimsy periodically gifting insane relics and literal mental illnesses to people probably wouldn't even be in the top 30.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

My biggest problem with someone like Sheogorath is that he can just create a planet sized object at will and there's nothing anyone could do to stop him

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Amos Burton from The Expanse. Fans love him but he is a deeply damaged, disturbed, violent individual with no sense of right or wrong. At one point in the books, he looks at somebody and thinks he may have to kill them. The idea doesn't bother him. He doesn't get pleasure from it. But they're in his way so he'll do it.

[–] Grumpydaddy@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Amos is self aware though. He knows he was born without a moral compass and allows Naomi, who he knows is good, to give him direction. He trusts that her decisions will keep him from crossing a line that he knows is there but he can't see himself.

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

True, he latches on to people he thinks are righteous, first Naomi and then Holden, and uses them as his moral compass. But when they are not around, he beats people up and kills then as his go to reaction to a threat and he has no remorse over doing it. As Naomi tells Holden about him, He is a monster. He doesn't want to be a monster, but he is one.

[–] Lorindol@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 months ago

Yep.

In one of the books he is on Earth without his shipmates and pretty quickly regresses back to sociopathic behaviour.

But he recognizes this and does not welcome it. After killing a stranger just to get access to gear he needs, Amos realizes that he is making the wrong choices and states: "I need to get back to my crew."

He has an understanding of what is good and what is bad. He cannot understand why there are limitations to by which means "good" can be achieved. But he knows these limits do exist and should be respected, therefore he needs Naomi and Holden to lead him.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What made me like Amos Burton (from the series, still have to read the book) is that he is self aware enough to know this about himself, and intelligent enough to understand it as a shortcoming in many situations.

He's a man where some part of him wants to do good, even be used for good, but doesn't know how. But he recognises good people, and anchors himself to those he believes can use him for good.

That somehow makes him smarter than most people in the series... Or in real life, for that matter.

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[–] Maiq@piefed.social 6 points 11 months ago

Plenty of Amos's IRL already though.

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Every sitcom character ever. Also Dora the Explorer

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What's wrong with having your adventure buddy randomly stop, stare into space and ask the most obvious questions and act like she got an answer?

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is this how everyone in the marvel universe sees Deadpool?

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[–] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Donald J. Trump, the fictional character in Home Alone. Dude gave me the creeps, was looking at the underage Kevin like he was a pacifier

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tony Stark would be controversial. A billionaire weapons dealer who indirectly killed millions of people with his weapons. Then he turns around and decides to be a superhero but continues to cause destruction and inadvertently kill people. A lot of people would think he's only doing heroic acts for the praise.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago

In the comics and movies defense, within universe he is controversial and it is a major plot point with the Sokovia Accords / Registration Act to put some guardrails around him. And in terms of character growth, he supports those laws, even though they restrict his autonomy, whereas a younger version of himself wouldn't comply and act as a reckless narcissist.

[–] Lilac@lemmy.zip 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People like Cave Johnson? I thought they find him interesting, not a likeable person.

[–] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Combination of:

  • People whose only exposure is clips from Portal and think he's just a goof who rants about combustible lemons, not a deeply disturbed person who subjected people to horrific experimentation.
  • People who can't distinguish between other fans saying "I like this person as an interesting, well-portrayed, flawed character" and "I like this person directly as an individual".
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[–] newtraditionalists@kbin.melroy.org 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sonic would be soooo annoying.

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 months ago

Barney Stinson is a creep whose actions border on rape and it was hinted he may have even been involved in human trafficking at one point

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sheldon Cooper. Not sure if people love him as a fictional character either though...

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The main characters of ‘Friends’, perhaps excluding Phoebe Buffay. Once you try to figure out their morals, it's baffling how they can be considered even half decent people.

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[–] save_the_humans@leminal.space 7 points 11 months ago

Do you think Pokémon battles should be illegal, Ash?

No, of course not

Your pikachu is lying in a puddle of its blood.

We provide work for every town. Joy would be out of her nursing job if not for us.

[–] KokusnussRitter@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 11 months ago

Captain! Jack Sparrow. Fun to watch and wonder how much he plans or if he's just good at improv. But he's routinely sacrificing his crew-members/friends for his own advantage.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Raphaël Ambrosius Costeau. AKA Harry Dubois.

If he was real, at best he'd be kind of pathetic; at worst he's a horribly disturbed, sexist, racist, homophobic drug addicted alcoholic. With a gun.

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