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[–] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There's a bunch of Chinese posts asking if the stuff about school shootings, fires, homelessness are exaggerated propaganda only to be told otherwise. It's both hilarious and sad.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago (17 children)

People of the US and China are both unsure of what to believe about the other, because both are so propagandized lol

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[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

School shootings is something uniquely american. Even México doesn't have them and we have a decent amount of narcojuniors (rich sons of drug dealers) that would have plenty access to guns, the only time i remember a school shooting happening it was in a private school in Monterrey like 7 years ago, which is pretty much the most americanized part of México.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm reminded of that ex Soviet joke about how they always knew the government was lying about their own countries but were shocked to learn it was telling the truth about america

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If banning tik tok ends up galvanizing demand for healthcare reform I'm going to laugh my ass off

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good comrades like Lady Izdihar are taking off in a big way, might help radicalize a lot of people towards Marxism even.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rednote's algorithm seems very receptive to communist content, at least compared to what I'm used to. Hope it stays that way.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's honestly very wholesome to see this kind of interaction. On top of cute moments like Chinese users telling the new US users that they are their "spies," seeing a lot of blatant myth dispelling surrounding the PRC is great to help tear down the Red Scare.

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[–] Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (10 children)
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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Circle jerking about China is as ridiculous as circle jerking about the US. We've been here before with US vs USSR, but this time everyone has a megaphone and an IQ that can be measured with a ruler.

[–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean isn't this more "circle jerking " about dismantling state propaganda? Interacting with those you were told are your enemy?

Besides, people should always celebrate the positives, and look towards them as something that is possible in their country too.

And as an fyi: when we were here before, the workers revolution in Russia was new. The achievements were so profound that workers in North America began demanding similar concessions from our governments. There was a real threat of overthrowing the existing power structures. And what happened? Weekends, literacy, healthcare, just generally improved living conditions. To dismiss cultural exchange as circle jerking is to ignore history and the power that comes with knowing things are better elsewhere, and that you can have that too.

[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You keep on coping there little buddy. What's happening is that regular people from both countries are now talking directly to each other, and finding out what life is actually like.

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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Niether Moscow or Washington, but somehow Washington actually very-intelligent

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

If what you're trying to get at is that whereas it is very important to unlearn the lies and exaggerations one was told about a country, that people also need to avoid replacing these lies with an overly simplistic and uncritical understanding of that same country, and that the current social media landscape makes it very difficult for many people to have the necessary nuance to avoid this pitfall... Then I would agree with you, but I'd also tell you that mentioning the eugenicists' favorite way of measuring "intelligence" is a very bad way of phrasing this idea, and that your standards of what counts as "circle-jerking" about a country are probably not nearly as inviting of nuance as you'd think.

[–] caboose2006@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh, there's truth and lies on both sides. Coming from someone that lived in china for 4 years and was able to engage with Chinese primary news sources. But basic healthcare in china is faster and cheaper, but then again I went to get a wart removed and they prescribed me acorn paste that accelerated the growth of the wart. So win some lose some.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Everyone pretending Europe doesn't exist? Most countries have most healthcare for "free" (mandatory healthcare taxes).

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

The kinda people joining Rednote right now are not the same kinda people who know alot about geopolitics, or honestly anything beyond their personal bubble. Yeah, they're just gonna keep pretending Europe doesn't exist.

[–] Pili@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Eh... as someone living in western Europe, I can't say it's free. I would say that it's subsidized at most. We still have to pay a part of our healthcare, we can get a private health insurance to complete the government coverage, but it's still not enough to cover all of it.

Mental health isn't covered at all, ophtalmology barely (still gotta pay 200€ for a pair of glasses, after public + private coverage), dental only the very basic is covered...

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Norway actually does.
Source: Am norwegiam. Am parent.

In the US? Lol, no.
Source: I work with a bunch of Texans.

[–] ganymede@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

wow the level of cope in this thread (thankfully not that many tho) arguing over stats - which are probably made up anyway.

some people can't handle that most humans just wanna be friends regardless of gov politics bs

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Lol people actually believed that social credit score bullshit?

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But... social credit literally is real... There are government legislations on this. It is not a conspiracy theory.

On the other hand Western media definitely has exaggerated and demonized it a lot. The social credit is basically your credit score, but it is more expansive and uses information some might see as encroaching on their personal privacy and freedoms.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I'm getting tired of all this propaganda... I honestly may leave Lemmy if this keeps up.

"Everything" we've heard about China is a lie? Are you people for fucking real?

People are people no matter where they live, which also means you can't trust any government anywhere. Propaganda is powerful.

The idea of a social credit score has always been hilarious to me, like yo bros we have credit scores over here and they legitimately fuck us over since you need good credit to do alot of things like renting a place to live.

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