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[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 275 points 1 week ago (17 children)
[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 172 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And of course, nobody is surprised.

[–] subarctictundra@lemmy.world 72 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm more surprised that Russia voted Yes

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 78 points 1 week ago

Russia doesn't care because they're big as fuck on any projection.

So is the US, but we voted no because we're contrarian little pissbabies.

[–] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 week ago

Russia's been cozying up to Africa for a long time. And it was the AU which spearheaded this initiative.

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[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Guess they will soon not only have their own system of measuring distance, weight and temperature; but also their own system of displaying Earth. They want to live in their own version of reality i guess.

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[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago

This might be the first time in history Israel voted differently than the United States of America

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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 92 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The Mercator map, which has been in common use since the 16th Century, has come in for criticism as it shows Africa as similar in size to Greenland, even though it is 14 times larger.
Critics say this leads to the development needs and potential for countries near the equator to be minimised.

I think that’s got more to do with the systemic legacy of colonialism than with which world maps people look at.

[–] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

It’s both/and.

Let’s say you’re trying to convince a populace of an unpopular war to invade, I dunno, Greenland. You want to convince the country of its massive land & untapped riches.

Which map would you use?

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[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The Mercator projection is also a systemic legacy of colonialism, so doing away with it doesn't hurt.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (20 children)

The Mercator projection is a legacy of people needing a world map in which local regions preserve accurate directions and proportional distances (i.e., people who need a map for navigation instead of a global dick-measuring contest).

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[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 23 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Every map projection has some inaccuracies and thing that they're good and bad at. The Mercator is good at preserving shape and distance, which used to be quite important for navigating around the world, which was important for colonization. Other maps have accurate size but inaccurate shapes. The Mercator projection isn't the worst, but less suited for the needs of today. We should all probably just use globes. The UN should also use globes.

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[–] ratel@mander.xyz 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

Mercator projection was favoured because it was useful for navigation due to preserving rhumb lines, representing them as straight lines on the map, and has been around for like 400 years.

Given that barely anyone does navigation like this any more it's not that important to keep it as the default view for world maps that aren't used for navigation such as a simple wall map. Web maps and the use of pseudomercator have definitely kept it relevant in modern times and as the most recognizable projection.

There isn't much basis to say it's used to "make colonial countries look bigger and Africa look smaller" except for people virtue signaling in blog posts over the last decade. If anything then it's a psyop by Big Greenland.

As this post explains, you can just look at a globe if you want accurate size representation, because all map projections are distorted and there is always a tradeoff.

E: Oops I can see several people already explained this since refreshing the post.

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[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 76 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Why do we always have to vote the dumbest possible way in these things?

"UN vote on whether we should eat glass: 99% against, US stands alone as In Favor ."

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Great to see the United States being humiliated internationally again.

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[–] Noblesavage@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'm sure that Google will quickly change their map projections from Pseudo-Mercator to Equal Earth projection as quickly as they changed the names of the bodies of water because President orange cheeto said so... right?... Riiiight?

[–] black0ut@pawb.social 24 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Web Mercator is a special kind of abomination, even down to the way the map is cropped to be exactly square. But it is probably the most suitable for navigation, as Mercator itself was designed specifically for it.

Buildings, streets and map features would be more distorted under Equal Earth projection than they already are with Web Mercator. Web Mercator also has the benefit that the cardinal directions are always straight respective to the XY grid, even though the Y direction is non linear.

There is no perfect way of flattening a 3D spheroid into a 2D map, sadly.

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[–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 53 points 1 week ago

Even Israel voted differently to the US, that's way funnier than it should be

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Oh, yeah, well Donald signed a new order changing every country’s name to America.

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[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Mercator is bad as a world map, but the reason why it's used on most online maps is that those online maps are usually used as local maps, where Mercator is a very good projection. It would be good if online maps switched projections if you zoomed out beyond a certain level.

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not on iOS anymore but when you zoomed out on Apple Maps it became a globe. Not sure if that's still true or I remember incorrectly and am confused with a 3rd party map, but that would be best on screens imo.

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[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Americans are probably the dumbest people on the planet.

Source: been here my whole life

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[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 week ago (3 children)

WHY did the USA vote against it

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Racism and white supremacy. Typical.

Some critics of the Mercator projection suspect it has remained widely used because it enlarges and centers Europe, as well as other Western regions such as North America, perpetuating ideas of European superiority.

The UN resolution notes “with concern that this distortion contributes to minimizing the perceived sizes of Africa, Latin America and South Asia, and perpetuating an unbalanced view of the world.”

[–] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because it makes them look smaller. Because reality.

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[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 21 points 1 week ago

Because it would make Greenland look far smaller and uninteresting for Trump.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, the mercator map was meant for ship navigation, not as a geopolitical bat.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Exactly, which is why it really grinds my gears when people try to present the map as intentionally amplifying some countries at the expense of others. That's not the point, it's just a side effect of inventing the first map that could actually be used for long-distance navigation.

For the UN it makes complete sense to use a different projection.

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[–] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

this is the difference btw


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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What we had in school in the U.S.

The Robinson protection:

What many U.S. texts moved to after I left school.

The Winkel Triple Projection:

Apparently the Mercador map is what digital maps seem to use because the lines are 90 degrees so it makes it easier.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I hope they make the map of USA really small and Canada and Mexico really big.

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[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The United States cast the sole vote against, dismissing the initiative as part of a “radical ideological project.”

https://news.un.org/en/story/2026/09/1168284

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"radical" lost all meaning in the US

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[–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 20 points 1 week ago

I saw the US was against it an thought it had to be smth like this. Only americans can look at a problem like "you can't project a 3D sphere onto a 2D plane" and think "waow this is a little too political for me" (I know I'm oversimplifying but u get the gist)

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[–] Lanske@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Did the US vote no, because they are smaller on new maps?

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Their stated reason boils down to "New map is woke".

I hate this timeline.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago

Magastan voted no.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guarantee you that Donny will make a freedom correct map of the world.

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why the us voted against? In the new map they look bigger than Canada, it should appease the baby in command.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 26 points 1 week ago

They don't want Trump to see how small Greenland actually is. I think he reckons it's about half the size of the United States because he's an idiot. Not that this map projection is at all new, or has been a secret or anything, but trump isn't exactly the investigating type and so he probably hasn't seen it before, but if the information is shoved in his face he might become upset.

[–] los0220@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Maybe the US has a broken voting button, they would want to click "yes", but it ends up as "no" every time.

/s

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