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navidrome, self-hosted is what I use. Personally, the less I have to contact google's servers for the media I enjoy, the better.
Sorry I don't have better advice, but alongside soulseek, lucida.to, and torrents, I have way more music than I think I'll ever be able to listen to in my lifetime.
Very relevant comment, navidrome is amazing
I've never heard of it before. It's sounding very convincing
What's the spot for music torrents nowadays?
I just use soulseek/Nicotine+ or I keep it old school cause it's never let me down and use pirate bay still.
This is the way to go. And it's really satisfying to see randos downloading your music. I never clear the "upload" tab lol
rutracker, I guess, or any other public tracker. The more niche the music though, the less likely torrents will be alive.
Ok I think this is a very attractive option. This is the first I'm hearing of navidrome!
I need to get navidrome set up, but I'm also wary of selfhosting anything externally accessible at home. As it is I just sync my music between phone and pc which works well enough.
The one thing I haven't been able to find is a good music recommendation or discovery solution a la Spotify daily mixes
Set it up with NetBird or Tailscale so it isn't externally accessible.
Yeah, I use Tidal for recommendations, then download so they don't rug-pull me.
SmartTube for your nvidia shield. You'll need 'Downloader' to get it. Also check out Project Ivy for the shield if you want a better UI
Excellent, very happy to hear there is an option for shield! I've never heard of project Ivy to I will take a look
It's one word "projectivy" fyi
I second the existing recommendations. Unfortunately Lidarr is only partially operational. My stack consists of:
For my particular use case (Proxmox-based container), I have a tutorial available. This can no doubt be adapted slightly if your system differs.
Thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed answer. Lidarr is a complete flop for me I find it very frustrating to use!
I just got slskd for soulseek going. You can add slskd as a source in lidarr. Need to add a plug-in to do so. I've also noticed lidarr sucks with torrents, but now that it's using slskd it's been pretty great. There's also nicotine+ if you want a desktop app to connect to soulseek, but seeing as I already had portainer and a bunch of docker stuff already, I went with slskd.
I found a soulseek image for my portainer setup but I'm struggling to get it to work. Navidrome works perfectly which is exciting. I don't really understand the difference or rather the connection between slskd and soulseek
The use case for slskd is if you want your music to live on a different machine, whereas soulseek/qt is for if you want your music on your primary machine. Another reason I keep it on a server is efficiency - I can expose my collection for sharing without having my 200W+ PC on, instead my server takes ~60W, ~20 if i remove the GPU
when I'm in need of offline music I pay for one month of tidal and then use streamrip to download it all
That's not a bad idea at all!
Soulseek, start to collect and share your music collection in high-quality format (FLAC)
I couldn’t get Lidarr to work very well so I started using Soulseek. Highly recommend it!
You can use slskd as a source in lidarr to download from soulseek. Gives you the nice *arr format and auto downloads, but connected to soulseek you actually get results to download.
Slskd is a plugin which isnt officially supported. So no support in the discord if you have to ask about issues.
I really hate that all the support channels are moving to discord instead of the web where you can just search and find the answers, because it's almost a guarantee that someone else already had the problem and it got answered. And you used to just be able to Google to find the answer. Now every question is, this is a support question, closing the thread go to discord.
Discord is the equivalenf of "I need support now".
Sort of like a lifeline for personalized issues.
Sometimes self inflicted.
Your described issues are something else. Something that is worthy a git issue.
Yes it annoys me too. But there are channels for each topic. And to be fair, a forum aint exactly support friendly for on-demand questions.
Huh, I’ll have to try that out. Thanks!
Yeah Lidarr is just not that good, thanks for the recommendation.
Lidarr is also no source but a search engine. If you don't supply it with indexers it's of course "shit".
Same as the eternal issue of bing vs google as a search engine.
Comparing apples and oranges...
Hi. I'm not saying it's shit. I know you need an indexer. I just wasn't a huge fan of how it oragnised music and it struggles with discs with multiple artists etc. Maybe I didn't know hoe best to utilise it properly, which is most likely the case.
It doesnt organize what musicbrainz isnt providing. And it does what musicbrainz does.
The main artist is the sorting artist.
Additional artists are just that. Additions.
If it is an even collab, it's either under 'Various Artists' or on the other artist.
Does it bother me? Yep.
I think how Spotify does it, it's better (listing all artists on the album). But that's now how the industry seems to work ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Keep in mind, if your VPN only has one port you can forward, which is likely to be the case, you have to choose between Soulseek and your torrent client.
If you enjoy a small independent band please consider going to their website and ordering physical media or buying a digital copy from their bandcamp or something. You can still pirate content you will never play to to fill up your storage. Small artists aren't getting hugely rich from their music and touring costs are out of control. It doesn't have to be all or nothing with the piracy.
My favourite group of the year Fin del Mundo came to my city and I made sure to buy a cassette of theirs they released. I will always support groups I love when I can.
soulseek/nicotine :3
Thank you, I will look into soulseek!
If you are are already doing docker slskd is a nice container client for soulseek.
My main issue with music streamers is that lately they have been pumping way too much AI garbage music into my playlist.
What's a good playlist generation app to discover music in the same vein as a song or album I select?
last.fm?
I'll give it a try. I have not pirated music since the 2Ks. Enshittification is gonna drive me back out to sea.
last.fm isnt really piracy tho, iirc you can use their scrobbler with all sorts of things including spotify
I recommend grayjay on your phone+fcast receiver on your tv.
not sure about the nvidia shield but have you looked at re-vanced?