Bare minimum they should be made to stop genociding before they're allowed back in.
Russia, Israel and China should all be treated the same.
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Bare minimum they should be made to stop genociding before they're allowed back in.
Russia, Israel and China should all be treated the same.
Russia, Israel and China should all be treated the same.
Sure. The same as America.
Sounds reasonable to me.
The Russia, Israel and China are all doing their genocides on a scale far bigger than what USA is currently doing.
Therefore, be careful not to make it look like "these don't need to excluded because USA isn't". Perfect is the enemy of good!
But otherwise I do agree: USA has no place in any international sports events as long as its behaving like the ass it's been for at least the past 50 years.
I'm sure Cuba thinks the blockade on it is totally fine and doesn't constitute a similar crime like Israel withholding aid to Palestinians. Or attacking a sovereign state and kidnapping it's leader. Or attacking a sovereign state and killing multitudes of civilians. And that's just the past year.
I agree Russia, China, Israel bad - but to think the US isn't so fucking far up there with them, not just now but historically, is really not giving enough "credit" where it's due.
The Russia, Israel and China are all doing their genocides on a scale far bigger than what USA
American Exceptionalism strikes again.
You've got Americans blowing up hospitals and daycares in Iran, shooting up fishing boats off the coast of Venezuela, sieging Cuba to the point of mass starvation, and facilitating genocides from Libya to Afghanistan. But the pre-programmed western response is "I think the other countries are worse!" That's all that matters. You heard the other guys were worse.
So we can do genocide as long as it's only a little genocide?
That wasn't a defense of the US. It was pointing out that while the US is bad, others are worse. They even closed out saying they agree US shouldn't be allowed in internationally competition. Nobody should be genociding, some are genociding harder than others, all should be banned.
The Russia, Israel and China are all doing their genocides on a scale far bigger than what USA is currently doing.
Where, exactly, do you think Israel's money and weapons and bombs come from?
Also, add (US Ally) Saudi Arabia to the genocidaire list, given their sponsorship of the RSF.
If we expand to concentration camps, we can add at least USA, France (I guess all of Europe contracting with other countries to handle migrants) that I know off. And I think that Canada does not really care about its native people when they go missing, so we could add it to.
That comment kind of seems to distract from the genocides and that kind of minimizes them no?
The US is for sure trying to silently genocide a ton of people. We're several red flag alerts into the trans genocide, and the US is openly obsessed with white supremacy.
Canada has a very VERY rough history of indigenous treatment, but what's France's deal today? I can't say I know that one
Should be rule that only countries that are not the agressor can participate. So no USA, Russia, Israel, etc.
The bare minimum should be to have no Olympic Games. It's ultranationalist propaganda, and a cursory glance at the Wikipedia articles on the first and second World Wars should be sufficient to convince oneself it's a bad idea to promote the idea that nation states should compete against one another as adversaries.
... And the US? Kinda missing from that list. Same for Israel and Iran as well if we start making a list.
I've already included Israel as they are actively genociding the most people at the moment.
Well, Israel is also still in, which says a lot about the ethical standards of the Olympic Committee
What is attacking civilians and a little genocide among friends?
IOC and FIFA, sitting in a tree...
B-E-I-N-G-P-I-E-C-E-S-O-F-S-H-I-T
First comes greed
Then comes cash
Then comes bribes
Hidden in a stash
From here I would blame people who keep watching the Olympics.
Just like I blame those who keep watching football even after all the FIFA bullshit.
Corporations will do anything they can to get away with with profits and so far people have been good little milking cows
Russia should remain banned. However in fairness many other countries should also be banned. How can Israel or the US be allowed if Russia isn't? Ukraine if fine, they are only defending themselves and are not the aggressor. Some others are harder to determine. As long as the US is allowed, there really isn't any high ground to use for excluding other countries.
"You're still just as bad when we banned you, if not worse, but we kinda forgot about it at this point, so...buddies?"
Well, if Israhell is allowed to participate, IOC clearly has no morals and integrity

Well, talking about standards... Both the FIFA and the Olympics love to be hosted by dictatorships, corrupts governments and countries using slavery to build the stadia. Next to that they don't ban Israel, the US or China so when it comes to human rights, war crimes and crimes against humanity, they have no moral compass.
History is repeating, 90 years later and fascist country is organazing olympic games, Donald Trump will wellcome Vladimir Putin in next olympic games ("Hitler meet Mussolini" moment). I would be very worried if I were Jewish, Roma, Slav, communist, gay, opposition.
Also here in the Baltics we're no longer allowed to host any events that are qualifiers for the Olympics because we refuse to let Russians in. Some were already moved to other countries.
they couldnt ban israel and US so they unbanned russia