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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 51 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But think of billionaires' bottom lines!

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

I don't live in the US so mostly I'm thinking of who's gonna pay for my retirement and healthcare when I'm old.

I'm paying for the current old people's retirement and healthcare. That's fine, it's the social contract we have in our nation: everyone gets taken care of and those who can work, pay a lot of tax to make it happen. If the population decline gets bad enough, there will be no one to do the same for my generation.

Oh and they populist conservatives did a pension reform so you can take out whatever you've gathered in your second pillar even at age 20 if you want (at which point it'll probably be in the hundreds of euros lol) and can't resume payments (which were matched by the government - you pay 2, 4 or 6 percent and government pays 4% of your gross income) for 10 years. Worst deal ever for most people taking it out if they want to retire at one point. And a third of the population took it out. They now have to fully depend on the first pillar (government) pension, which isn't based on past investments at all, it's taken from the working population's social taxes when you retire. So far more directly affected by the population decline. I'm betting they'll eventually forcibly fuck it up for the rest of us to pay for the retirements of those who took it out.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Most countries have billionaires pulling strings at the top.

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[–] Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 35 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Tax-funded retirement is fucked, but like, who still thinks they're having one.

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago

All retirements will collapse not just public ones. It's called the asset meltdown hypothesis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqSwRHc-1MQ

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Old people aren't investments

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Well, with that attitude probably not.

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[–] xia@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] asg101@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The oligarchs haven't figured that out quite yet. They want to starve us out of existence, but still want to pig out at the government troughs. Where is that money going to come from when all the jobs are being done by AI and robots?

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

See that's the neat part when it comes to tech oligarchs, specifically. They believe in TESCREAL/Transhumanism so they're aiming to become the AI robots! YAY! /s

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

By the time things reach that point, it could be too late. TESCREALists are like planetary eugenicists. You know how Thiel couldn't answer the question about whether humanity should live in that one interview? He's not the only one. Their fantasy of what comes next will never work, but that doesn't mean they won't do unfathomable harm to the globe trying to make their sick dreams come true.

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[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

More like:

Without humans Who would pay rent/dividends?

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[–] tooks@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I can't think of anything more irresponsible and selfish than procreation in the 21st century. Why would anyone want to end their own life and subject themselves to the stress of ensuring their craft human survives and becomes a relatively average coal miner.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] tooks@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago
[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm not going to fault someone who has the means to provide for a child for making that choice. It's a very personal one, just as not having a child is.

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 weeks ago

Yay! Less humans to create less suffering!

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I am more than willing to fix the declining birth rates in every country but nobody is accepting my offers =/

[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

I make it my personal responsibility in life to constantly bring up the necessity of immigration as the solution to age disparity and population decline. There are working people. There are as many as you could ever need, tens of millions, perhaps hundreds. It's never going to be an issue which can't be solved with immigration.

[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't see how this is a solution so much as delaying the problem for future generations to deal with. What happens when the countries the immigrants are coming from start to face the same issue (if it isn't happening for them already?) It's basically the population equivalent of the "one more lane bro" philosophy.

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[–] orenj@leminal.space 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

But what about the orphan grinder? Wont somebody think of the orphan grinder?

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 7 points 3 weeks ago

The machine needs cogs!

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[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Not a problem unless you were counting on collecting social security

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know if I plan on being around that long

[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You could withhold your taxes but doing that would be too large an action for most Americans.

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[–] EatYourOrach@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

There are 8.3 Billion people on the planet and there were 7.5 ten years ago. We have enough people. We have enough resources for everyone to live comfortably and be well in their communities. We have more than enough money and other valuable things to trade.

The main thing getting in our way isn't a low birth rate.

Anyone genuinely concerned with the depopulation of humans in 2026 is probably some flavour of breeder cult weirdo, and the only ones constantly banging on about it in politics, academia, the news, etc are imperialists, industrialists and racist patriarchs. IME.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

Way ahead of you.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 6 points 3 weeks ago

But there’ll be fewer workers for the oligarchs to lay off! How are they going to signal to shareholders that operating costs will be lower next quarter?

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

If growth doesn't compensate for shrinking working population, you'll be fucked. Somone has to work so you have your retirement.

[–] WhoIsTheDrizzle@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Not really, we're just being looted and exploited by the ownership class. We have plenty of productivity to take care of everyone: https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/

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