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Official announcements from the Lemmy project. Subscribe to this community or add it to your RSS reader in order to be notified about new releases and important updates.

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An open source project the size of Lemmy needs constant work to manage the project, implement new features and fix bugs. Dessalines and I work full-time on these tasks and more. As there is no advertising or tracking, all of our work is funded through donations. Unfortunately the amount of donations has decreased to only 2000€ per month. This leaves only 1000€ per developer, which is not enough to pay my bills. With the current level of donations I will be forced to find another job, and drastically reduce my contributions to Lemmy. To avoid this outcome and keep Lemmy growing, I ask you to please make a recurring donation:

Liberapay | Ko-fi | Patreon | OpenCollective | Crypto

If you want more information before donating, consider the comparison with Reddit. It began as startup funded by rich investors. The site is managed by corporate executives who over time have become more and more disconnected from normal users. Their main goal is to make investors happy and to make a profit. This leads to user-hostile decisions like firing the employee responsible for AMAs, blocking third-party apps and more. As Reddit is a single website under a single authority, it means all users need to follow the same rules, including ridiculous ones like censoring the name "Luigi".

Lemmy represents a new type of social media which is the complete opposite of Reddit. It is split across many different websites, each with its own rules, and managed by normal people who actually care about the users. There is no company and no profit motive. Much of the work is carried out by volunteer admins, mods and posters, who contribute out of enthusiasm and not for money. For users this is great as there is no advertising nor tracking, and no chance of takeover by a billionaire. Additionally there are no builtin political or ideological restrictions. You can use the software for any purpose you like, add your own restrictions or scrutinize its inner workings. Lemmy truly belongs to everyone.

Dessalines and I work fulltime on Lemmy to keep up with all the feature requests, bug reports and development work. Even so there is barely enough time in the day, and no time for a second job. Previously I sometimes had to rely on my personal savings to keep developing Lemmy for you, but that can't go on forever. We partly rely on NLnet for funding, but they only pay for development of new features, and not for mandatory maintenance work. The only available option are user donations. To keep it viable donations need to reach a minimum of 5000€ per month, resulting in a modest salary of 2500€ per developer. If that goal is reached Dessalines and I can stop worrying about money, and fully focus on improving the software for the benefit of all users and instances. Please use the link below to see current donation stats and make your contribution! We especially rely on recurring donations to secure the long-term development and make Lemmy the best it can be.

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[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (15 children)

Update: For those of you who want to support Lemmy development without financing the hosting of lemmy.ml, know that the hosting is paid exclusively through OpenCollective. You can see the payment details at this link. This means donations through all other platforms (Liberapay, Ko-fi, Patreon, Crypto) are exclusively for Lemmy development, and not a single cent goes to lemmy.ml hosting.

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[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Featured, best of luck to the donation drive. The lemmy developers do good work and deserve good pay

[–] Sal@mander.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I just noticed that featuring will only pin to "All" and not "Local". It is helpful to cross-post to a local community to pin it more visibly.

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago

Good point, thanks

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Wouldn't have an alternative to Reddit without it—so, by all means

[–] Sal@mander.xyz 0 points 11 months ago

Best of luck raising funds! 👍 Pinned for extra visibility.

[–] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 0 points 11 months ago (6 children)

For someone like me who wants to see Lemmy be a place that's owned by users, run by users, and moderated sensibly, what should I do? I have a problem with supporting the lemmy.ml instance.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago

Keep using it and support whatever replacement comes by if they fail to find because of the Deb's shitty behavior

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

Lemmy instances are already owned and run by their different instance admins and moderators. Regardless of how you feel about Lemmy.ml, development for Lemmy supports all who use different instances.

The alternatives are doing the dev work yourself, or finding a different platform to use.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The lemmy.ml instance costs like 30$/month to run. Your donation isn't going to that; your donation is going to develop Lemmy itself

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago

Your donation isn't going to that

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If they do not treat lemmy.ml server donations separately from lemmy development donations, that is a problem.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy.ml is how they test new features, it's a tool necessary for development. You can block Lemmy.ml or use an instance defederated from it if you wish, but it's necessary as far as development is concerned.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I don't want to block lemmy.ml, it's not like I hate that instance or anything. But I don't see why I should finance this server - it's definitely not just a development server. I would like to finance development of lemmy without that money going into that server.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They need users to test, and let people in to do so. The fact that the people here use the server is a necessary function for getting feedback and results from testing. Plus, the server costs are cheap, it's the life costs that you would really be supporting.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They can pick a different instance, this is bullshit speak.

Wanna be a dev? Fine. Keep your authoritarian bullshit out of it. The devs for lemmy being known as authoritarians causes new people to avoid lemmy.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (15 children)

What "different instance?" Lemmy.ml has always been the test instance, you can block it if you don't like dealing with Communists. You're complaining about an anti-Capitalist, federated platform being developed by Communists, if you want a platform with everyone conforming to your views there are other platforms for you.

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[–] towelie@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

www.lemm.ee has been the only place I've enjoyed using lemmy

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Lemmy default UI should seriously consider a daily donation goal, similar to old Reddit. Implement a backend API to fetch the daily amount needed and the current amount donated, and stick it on the right hand side by all the trending communities. As a stats nerd, this would seriously motivate me to donate more.

[–] Hircine@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And like the Vivaldi browser you can get a permanent badge on your name and avatar picture if you donate. im a sucker for those things. and different color depending the amount donated.

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[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Donation nags to users were added in a recent update. I think it shows up in a year from the last popup, so about 11 months away

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Best of luck with this. Would you guys find it helpful if you had more GH contributors?

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[–] will_a113@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the reminder!

[–] Kualdir@feddit.nl 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ok so personally I really wouldn't mind having some non-tracking ads in a banner somewhere to at least support a bit (perhaps on an opt-in system). This'd allow me to support lemmy just a little bit every time I use it.

[–] Aceivan@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I can see how that would feel good, but unless they were selling ads directly to friendly companies (and even disregarding the fact that it seems unlikely there would be many/any given their anticapitalist bent), this would make the project almost no money, while annoying users and opening them up to a lot of criticisms and a lot of overhead work building it and keeping that system running. Plus the vast majority of instances would probably not willingly run ads to benefit the devs, either due to not wanting ads or political disagreements with the devs, so it'd be only lemmy.ml and some micro instances. A nominal donation of $1/month from users like you, who may not want to spend much but does want to support in some way, would make them more money than a years worth of browsing

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[–] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This motivated me to donate 3 € per month. Not a big one but I am doing my part! I could also make a post at !meta@sopuli.xyz about the subject.

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[–] Rexios@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I gladly doubled my monthly contribution. Thank you so much for working on Lemmy! I had no idea you worked on it full-time. That's insane! It is the first fediverse software I ever used, and it opened my eyes to a whole other side of the internet I didn't know existed.

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Donated via LiberaPay for 1 year.

[–] RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Donated with renewal! Thank you all for the hard work 😁

[–] mvmike@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago

Same! Keep up the good work!

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago

Chipping in a bit (30CAD quarterly). I really owe it to your and dessalines' work, having been here for over 2 years now.

[–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

NB: also don't beat yourself down if you cannot be contributing financially: there are many ways to contribute to the community by posting, commenting, reporting, moderating, and overall just being active and nice ;) your presence and participation here already means a lot!

[–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago

Even taking time for +1 and -1 content is useful and counts as active contribution!

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[–] Bell@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

This worked on me, I just became a contributor

[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Are any of the posted platforms better or worse to subscribe to? Patreon is easiest but if there are any percentages taken out etc etc I'll switch it up rat-salute-2

[–] Aceivan@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

liberapay is probably the best. For payments processed there by stripe the fee avg is around 3.1%, and there's no additional fee to the platform. Patreon ends up being like 15-20% iirc when you add up all fees. Unsure about opencollective or ko-fi

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[–] Kualdir@feddit.nl 0 points 11 months ago

ko-fi does not take a platform fee (unless they specifically enabled giving away 5% to ko-fi but I don't think they did)

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[–] Aceivan@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago

this was a good way to find out my former liberapay had crapped out over a year ago

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] aradgus@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

You're correct.

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