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[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I have this in my area, which was weird coming from actual big cities with way more dense traffic.

It's like the courtesy from the shared misery of, "We're all in this shit together" never got a chance. Instead people here seemingly never evolved beyond the "If I tailgate this one car, the 100 in front will disappear" phase.

When you're overtaking someone going slow, but they speed up next to you, so you're stuck now and will miss the exit. Just pretend they were probably lonely and just needed someone next to them for a while.

[–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

When you’re overtaking someone going slow, but they speed up next to you, so you’re stuck now and will miss the exit. Just pretend they were probably lonely and just needed someone next to them for a while.

alternatively, if your vehicle is not driven by unicorn farts and has something with a bit of oomph to it, and you don't mind risking it: Mash accelerator, assert dominance, make exit.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

while you're not strictly supposed to, you can also slow down and go behind them

[–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 8 points 2 days ago

that's quitter talk

I'll hit the brakes, he'll fly right by us.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't want to be responsible for any bad driving. I just shut my eyes and let Jesus take the wheel.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)

it's a turn SIGNAL not a turn REQUEST

[–] Sc00ter@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago

Are you insinuating that they should just change lanes regardless of if its safe? Two lanes going different speeds, cant match the speed the lane next to you because theres too much traffic, just fuck go for it?

"I had my turn SIGNAL on. Told you I was coming! Wasnt asking!"

The car changing lanes is at fault for any accident or damage, and can even be cited for an unsafe change even if they dont cause an accident.

Please drive safe and not like an entitled asshole.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Some people feel like this, "why didn't others make way, I had my blinker on!". But it's the responsibility of the one joining the lane to actually make sure there's room. Some just fucking smash into the lane and I dunno hope for the best, but they're the one's who would have to pay for the damages

[–] antimidas@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

True, the responsibility for safe lane change lays on the driver who is changing lanes. However, any sensible country also prohibits obstruction of a lane change, i.e. you can get fined if you don't hold enough distance to the driver in front of you to allow merging, don't make room for the person with the signal on in reasonable time or if you deliberately close the gap so the other person can't change lanes.

That kind of cooperation is mandatory for good traffic flow and properly made laws try to ensure that. Turning signal should result in people noticing you, and letting you safely switch lanes. Too often people get into some vigilante-mode because they see the other driver skipping in line or something similar.

Merging is another story. Merging traffic should explicitly yield to all traffic already on the highway, similarly to how it works in a roundabout. This prevents people merging on a highway that's over its capacity, so the traffic clears quicker. It means that traffic should queue on the ramp until it's safe to merge, indefinitely if necessary. Mathematically it makes sense, but goes against intuition.

Some municipalities have tried out metered entry on highways, that block turning onto the on-ramp altogether if the level of congestion is too high. Some trials have already ended due to the perceived injustice as well, as people already on the highway are typically from out of the city, and thus preventing those living closer from merging onto it. Personally I think if you're close enough to complain about that you should be in public transit range of the population center, and complaining more about the lack of alternatives to driving.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 1 day ago

I don't think the driver who isn't changing a lane needs to do anything. If you're purposefully slowing down or speeding up to block them then that's different, but if you're just maintaining your own speed normally then it's up to the merging one to do their thing in a safe and legal manner. That is, slow down, speed up, or just decide to merge in some other gap if there's not enough room.

I'm just against people assuming that if they put their blinker on then others should accommodate them. That'd be silly driving. Finding a proper gap and putting on your blinker to indicate you're moving into that gap vs. deciding that you want to merge right now and others should make room

[–] Sc00ter@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

While there might be laws about prohibiting someone from changing lanes, by the time the officer gets there, there will be two stories, "he merged into me!" And "he wouldnt let me merge!" No way to prove that soneone prohibited a merge while the damage will still be caused by the person who changed lanes/merged and theyll be at fault.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Where I live sometimes if you don't just jump in the lane and push people out of the way they won't let you. They see a turn signal as a challenge to their authority

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 2 days ago

You are sorta responsible for finding the room to safely join a lane, blinker or no blinker. It's a risk to do it otherwise because if you hit the other car you're of course responsible, unless there's some specific rule in effect in that part

I get why people do it but expecting others to make room for you might end up costing a lot

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I drive a transport truck for a living.

When I signal to change lanes, it's very much a SIGNAL, not a REQUEST. If you want to request eating the inside of the median because you won't let me over, that's your choice.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

this is also why i try to leave at least a trailer's length, two if traffic's good, between me and the next car. If a transport truck can get in front of me, do their elephant race, and get out from in front of me, without either of us breaking a sweat, that's a good interaction on the road.

my wife has at times accused me of driving like an old man. and... my nickname has been grandpa since i was in my 20s and maybe that's because i had some really cool grandpas. but like, i swear karma exists on the roads out here. if i make room for you, there will be room for me. it's called karma.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In my 30 years of driving, I've never been involved in an accident. People like you are why. Keep on doing what you do!

lucky so and so. i got hit last year while taking a nap in the passenger seat while my wife was in the library. to be perfectly clear we were parked. she teases me that i cannot even be left alone in the car that was number 11 for me (and only one was maybe 30% my fault dammit). You know how some people weird things just happen to?

[–] cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

from my experience driving in and out of chicago i learned quickly that you have to MAKE them let you in. as someone who grew up on a gravel road it was an interesting experience the first couple times lol

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Time that edge in so that if there's a collision, it's technically them running into you, and you've won. Except maybe for the occasional time the other driver wants to hurt you (by going somewhere and fighting outside of the vehicles, random weapons).

[–] teft@piefed.social 22 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Let you switch lanes?

As they say in Rome, carpe viam. Don't ask for permission, just start moving your car towards the other fuckers. They'll move if they prefer not to have scratches on their car.

Oh also you're gonna wanna drive a shitbox in case they decide to tank those scratches.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The US does not teach you to drive. It is laughable how easy it is to get a license with a fraction of the training of most other western countries.

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just Mad Max your vehicle. Bumpers, spikes and flames on the sides of your car will convince people to kindly yield.

[–] teft@piefed.social 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can of silver paint ready for when the inevitable road rage kicks in.

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[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I had to learn this quick when I lived in Philadelphia for a couple years. Works great everywhere else, too!

I live in a Philly suburb (in Delco) and driving here is crazy enough, but whenever I drive into the city the transition to the Mad Max state of mind is just insane.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm sorry but you're the one that's going to have to pay for those damages

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thankfully most people hate insurance claims more than they like being assholes

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Someone breaking the law and hitting your car should be an easy claim, but here we just call the cops if there's a disagreement over who caused what. Makes claim stuff (even) easier.

Doesn't stop people just trying to smash into others though

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I went into a clothing store in the 90s and heard this song playing. I never heard it on the radio before or after that one day (I think it was in a fashion bug?), but it was memorable enough to stick in my head for the rest of that day and I seem to randomly remember it approximately once every decade.

Your post did it this decade.

[–] alternategait@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

This is fun!

[–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

A lot of interesting takes!

I'll add another... If this is you, keep right.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If it helps, lane changing is one of the main reasons for congestion so if you're only making a short trip (e.g. same city) you might as well keep right-ish.

In heavy traffic it's usually not even much slower, and sometimes even faster, so I often stay in the right two lanes if I'm just going downtown or something. I usually also help with the flow of traffic by letting people in and out for the three or four exits I'm passing, since I try not to tailgate.

That works great until the exit is on the left.

[–] folekaule@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

No way they'll let you turn off in Cleveland either. Be assertive or keep going, buddy.

[–] cmder@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

You don't wait people to let you switch lane, you make them let you switch.
As we say from where I am "clignotants, coup de volant" ! ("Turn signal, turn the steering wheel" not sure about the translation :'))
Of course it works better if you drive an old car. :D

[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

There's nothing wrong with packing a bag with 2 pairs of jeans, 4 shirts, and taking the first available flight out of town. (Am so close to trying this, except from my local airport, it will probably go from Nowhere, to Slightly-Bigger-Nowhere)

This post is calling me out and I don't like it!! haha

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I like to imagine we'd all be happier and better people if city infrastructure wasn't designed around trying to get cars from A to B instead of people.

[–] Chev@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So you switched to a place where you don't need to own a car and can simply walk or use public transport anywhere you want?

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 0 points 2 days ago

Oh, can't afford to move to any of those places!

[–] chocrates@piefed.world 1 points 2 days ago

Move to New Orleans, nobody lets you in here. You gotta just merge and hope they aren't texting.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io -1 points 2 days ago

You have a blinker, a gas pedal, a brake pedal, and a rolling 2-ton block of steel and plastic. If you can’t get over, that’s on you.

I get it. I live in Austin, the tailgating Capitol of the world. Turns out, people want you to run into them as much as you want to run into them. That is, not at all. Grow a pair and show those assholes that they need to be leaving more space in front of them, even at slower speeds.