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"The cheating on mail-in voting is legendary. It's horrible what's going on," Trump said, repeating his false allegations about mail ballots as he signed the order. "I think this will help a lot with elections."
"And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed—if all records told the same tale—then the lie passed into history and became truth."
George Orwell, '1984'
As an American, Is there a way to not be on his list?
The only people on the list already voted for him three times.
I think you missunderstand the full purpose of these lists. As a black man I don't won't anything to do with an fascist regimes "list"
While they are stupid, they're not that stupid. If the next election shows voting for Republicans at like 90% levels, people will not accept it.
…but if it shows places that were at 45% at like 51%.........
States control elections. Donny can fuck off.
He's going to say his people have to run blue states, and if they don't go along with it he'll try to say their elections don't count.
Then have congress just not come into new session to seat anyone.
Even if the article didn't explicitly talk about it it's weird how many people really can't see that coming and legitimately think he'll start following both letter and spirit of the law.
Not saying that he won't try, but the president has no (constitutional) say in the sitting of congress.
I looked it up and in Powell vs McCormack (1969), the Supreme Court ruled that the speaker of the house has no authority to deny a representative sent by their respective state. So, unless the current Supreme Court decides to overturn that precedent, it would require a 2/3 majority vote of the newly-seated house to expel someone, assuming I've understood correctly (which is questionable).
Tl;dr: I think even this couldn't necessarily prevent folks who win in November from serving.
The president has no...
When was the last time that mattered?
Yeah this will be shot down so fast, I’m not worried at all
....by whom?
As right wing as the Supreme Court is now, there's no way they allow this. They've already shot down less overt shit he's wanted.
Even if they do though, I don't think the Democratic States would comply regardless of a SC decision saying so. It is so clearly unconstitutional that I think they would outright refuse that interpretation.
Pretty sure this is gonna be a literal whitelist, as in white voters.
This is very clearly what they wanted all those state voter rolls for.
If the US has free and fair and honest elections, the Republicans will lose their majorities, therefore Trump (with the brazenly dishonest support of the corrupt and compromised conservatives of the Supreme Court) will see to it that the US does not have free and fair and honest elections.
Pretty much, but as others have pointed out elsewhere, it's difficult for him to rig the midterms for a number of reasons. It is entirely possible that both the House and the Senate will lose their majorities, even with all these obvious efforts to rig and cheat.
How is this not election interference? I mean even proposing a law to interfere is interfering. I know that existing laws have very specific wording, so my question is, why the fuck did this not cover it. It's insane how obviously unconstitutional this is to a degree that these fuckers should be imprisoned for even the intent to make this an EO.
You're making the incorrect assumption that Trump is beholden to the law.
Laws only matter if someone enforces them.
I mean, he already straight up admitted the 2024 election was rigged.
The cheating on mail-in voting is legendary. It's horrible what's going on,"
Didn't he, uhm, just recently voted through mail in Florida?
He also cheats on his wives, cheats on his taxes, cheats taxpayers out of their own money by funneling back into himself, cheats his contractors out of payments.... It's literally all he knows. Every accusation is a confession.
If you haven't already been doing so, between now and Election Day in November, CHECK YOUR VOTER REGISTRATION STATUS!
Y'all better be doing this. You gotta get rid of this guy, I'd love to come back 🙂
Snowden released the information showing that the government was logging everyone's text messages and logging the phone numbers everyone called. Then it was revealed that the government already has a profile that connects each person to their facebook, their phone number, their email- they know who everyone is. I guess this is really about ALLOWING people to be citizens and ALLOWING people to vote. It gives them control to create their own definitions and rules.
It also means that you, as a voter, have zero LOCAL recourse to get yourself added back on to the allowed list, should you ever find you have been kicked off it. And that is by design.
In most (all? I don't know) states, if there is any problem with your registration or ID at the polling place you are allowed to submit a provisional ballot, which is then counted after the problem is resolved, or discarded if it is not.
But with a federal -- physically controlled in Washington, DC -- list of allowed voters they can kick whoever they want off the voter rolls, whenever they want, for any reason they want or even no reason at all, and have that be the final word.
EVERYONE is on the disallowed voter list until and unless specifically added, by unnamed operators, in some completely opaque process, answerable to either no one at all, or just to some rubber-stamping kangaroo court in DC.
By contrast, the framers of the Constitution very specifically and deliberately left all election matters to the states, because they never wanted that concentration of power in the federal. Coming out of a very out of touch and physically distant monarchy they wanted people to never be too far from the mechanics of their own elections, so they very carefully wrote it the way they did.
And here we are.
They royaly fucked up by creating the EC and not including votes of no confidence.
Although maybe they intended for the people to forcibly remove bad presidents.
He’s realizing that he won’t be able to stop the election from happening, and that the SAVE Act is DOA. Grasping at thinner and thinner straws.
The people will vote. The states will count the votes and ratify winners. By November, the election will be among the largest midterm tidal waves in history.
Trump’s impotent rage will be the next operation epic fury and will yield similar results.
saves act is more than likely to hurt republicans overall, since likely the places that only issue passports are far and few between.
WATCH: Trump
No thanks!
Rules of the comm say you have to use the exact title of the article. I had taken that off and then realized it had to stay if the post was to remain up.
Yeah, I think it's safe to say that no one wants to watch an orange pustule erupt.
Well, it allowed my silly joke, so I approve. :)
Now that the dominion voting booths are rigged the only way that the Republicans can really lose an election is with mail in voting, so all this makes sense
executive order
That's as useful as a fart
Depends on what people do with it. If state governments comply, then it works. If they don't, it doesn't.
I suspect some states might comply, but others probably not.
Tell that to DOGE and the destruction it left in its wake
Seems like more people should be upset about this, but I guess we've all given up on democracy.
On the bright side, at least kids in the future won't have to memorize the Bill of Rights.
This just happened yesterday. Take a deep breath already
kids don't do that now
Apparently, neither do adults.
Most people probably aren't aware of it yet.
Lemmy gives us a very skewed perspective on how informed the general population is.
But there are already lawsuits being prepared.
Seems like more people should be upset about this, but I guess we’ve all given up on democracy.
You, maybe. Certainly nowhere near ALL. I was out there on Saturday. It's FAR from over.
Equal and more equal.
I still can’t understand why you need to register to vote? I mean, is that really democracy?
I still can’t understand why you need to register to vote? I mean, is that really democracy?
I literally do not understand what this question is trying to say, unless it is coming from a profound misunderstanding of what registering to vote actually means.
In the US, all elections are run by the individual states, across a land mass that is bigger than western Europe, and smaller only than Russia or China, and our voting process goes back to the late 18th century. This process actually worked really well for over two hundred years. It is only with the advent of electronic voting in the 1990s that there has been any real problem with our systems.
But regardless, both back in the 1700s and now, registering to vote in the US is simply a matter of providing your identity and address of residence to your state's electoral board in accordance with that state's laws. In return your constitutional right to vote in elections is affirmed by your state, again in accordance with that state's processes, so that when you show up to vote your vote is properly validated and counted.
So given that understanding, what does registering to vote have to do with any system of government?
What's not democratic about being affirmed as a lawful voter by the state where you reside, in a country where it is impossible to know all your neighbors by sight and where there even now are vast stretches of rural land that have few to no inhabitants?
Doesn't every country have some electoral census? I know only about Poland and Spain because that's where I voted but in both countries you register in the census to indicate where you will be voting. Based on that you get assigned to a voting location that they have on their list. You go there, show them ID, they mark on the list that you voted and you get to place your vote.
The main problem with US is that they, like some developing country, don't have a proper national ID system. In modern countries you get assigned an ID number at birth (PESEL in Poland, DNI in Spain), every single person has a national ID and you use it to identify yourself. No one says "you can't require ID for voting people a lot of people don't have it". People being unable to identify themselves is a 3rd world issue.
I never registered to vote in Canada.
Since I was moving a lot before I left (student, then early-career renter), I would always show up to my local polling station with proof of address (usually a utility bill in my name) and proof of citizenship (usually my passport). They would copy down my details and give me a ballot. (I wasn't a douchebag who would do this on election day. I'd always go for early voting when the polling station was empty.)
In Poland you have to apply for a kind of "remote location" voting in advance and you can get a paper that let's you vote anywhere. You can't just show up anywhere. We also don't have any sort of early voting here. The polling stations are only open on election day.
Who works at polling stations in Canada? How long do they have to sit there? In Spain it's random people from the public that are assigned to them so they are only required to be there for one day.
Sure, but I have never been registered to vote in Finland. I just have information about elections and when and where I can vote. Also here even prisoners can vote. That’s why I’m a bit confused about US voting laws.
Do you register as a resident of your new town if you move?
If yes, there's your registration to vote.
Probably: ~~eligible~~ republican leaning
His hands are tiny lol