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[–] coalie@piefed.zip 173 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

"meat honey"The vulture bee is sometimes said to produce a so-called "meat honey", but this is a misnomer resulting from scientific uncertainty, due to historic confusion of multiple species, each with a slightly different method of processing.

In one detailed study of Trigona hypogea in Brazil, the vulture bees mixed sugary plant products with a proteinaceous paste from regurgitated meat, and let it mature to form a sweet substance that was used as food; however, the two resources were initially kept in separate "pots" in the colony, neither being true honey (i.e., not derived from nectar), but they were then mixed together.

In a different study of Trigona necrophaga in Panama, the bees gathered nectar and produced honey, and they also produced a glandular secretion, derived from carrion, partially metabolized, used as a protein source, and kept completely separate from the honey. In neither case were the bees mixing meat-based substances with floral-derived substances.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulture_bee

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 112 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Vulture bees usually enter the carcass through the eyes. They will then root around inside gathering the meat suitable for their needs.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There needs to be metal band called Vulture Bees, this is too metal.

[–] obre@slrpnk.net 27 points 2 months ago
[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)
On bed of mottled rocks 
Amid flowers cold as ice 
Pray the weak, the old, the poor

And when the tiny one from Heaven comes 
Crawls inside the chosen skull 
And when the tiny one it summons the others 
To crawl inside the chosen skull

They build their castles in the heads of kings 
Bring life to the empty halls 
They build their castles in the heads of kings 
And honey will flow once more 
Once more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf_4uvymwRw

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (2 children)

In one detailed study of Trigona hypogea in Brazil, the vulture bees mixed sugary plant products with a proteinaceous paste from regurgitated meat, and let it mature to form a sweet substance that was used as food; however, the two resources were initially kept in separate "pots" in the colony, neither being true honey (i.e., not derived from nectar), but they were then mixed together.

So it's not incorporated in the honey. They have a separate protein stache.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 52 points 2 months ago (2 children)

A protein stache would be part of a meat beard.

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

I'll keep the typo up because of this <3

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Fascinating. It's worth mentioning that (normal) honey can be used to preserve meat, thanks to its antimicrobial and hydrophilic properties. I guess that's what's going on here too: they use a kind of nectar honey to keep the meat component from going off. That said, this kind of food preservation isn't immune to botulism so do be careful if you try this.

Now I'm wondering when/how this behavior evolved. Did these guys come first, and honeybees figured out how to eat pollen as a protein source as an evolutionary step, the other way around, or separately at the same time from some parent species?

[–] Mandarbmax@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

I just came into the comments to post that. Thank you!

[–] RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)
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[–] quantumcrop@lemmy.today 96 points 2 months ago

Using their extra-toothed mandible, they will slice and chew the flesh off, coating the meat in their acid-rich saliva before consumption. The bee will transport the chewed carrion back to the colony where it’s regurgitated into wax pots, different from the honey pots.

Here, the meat will be mixed with honey and left to mature over a period of 14 days. During this curing time, it will become a paste-like substance that is rich in free amino acids and sugars. This paste is fed to their young, who need it to grow.

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So basically a potted meat but with sugar instead of fat. Apparently they also keep normal honey that's separate from the meat honey. Bees are so fucking cool.

[–] 5715@feddit.org 78 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Nature does depravity.
Humans: "Is it edible?"

[–] rollerbang@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

While I would agree on the surface, it's not really depravity. We've got to do away with rotting meat somehow. Hence why vultures are so important.

Still upvoted though.

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[–] Geobloke@aussie.zone 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Have you ever thought about blue cheese?

"Let's try drinking the milk from an animal"

"Oh, it's kinda gross and solid ish now. Still tastes good though"

"Oh wait, it's gone really mouldy. Let's slap it on some chicken wings"

[–] 5715@feddit.org 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Animal cheese connoisseurs be like: Our food culture grew by one diarrhoea at a time.

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

People learning about mushrooms: This one tastes like beef, this one killed bob instantly, and that one made me see god for 2 weeks

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[–] negativenull@piefed.world 66 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Whirlygirl9@kbin.earth 21 points 2 months ago

We require more Vespene gas

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 60 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As vulture bee honey is derived from animal flesh, it is not suitable for vegetarians.

Phew that's good to know! Nearly gourged myself on some corpse honey

[–] Sphks@jlai.lu 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Honey produced by vulture bees is a pleasant tasting and sweet smelling honey-like liquid.

It's strange that it doesn't taste like rotten flesh.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I read it tastes a bit more like cheese/butter.

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[–] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip 57 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 months ago

No good, I'm thanks, dad

What

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 54 points 2 months ago

That hive looks like I'm not high enough level to fight whatever is in there.

[–] e_chao@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 36 points 2 months ago

From the entomologic side: this is so interesting, thanks for sharing.

From the Mothership RPG DM side: this is so useful, thanks for sharing.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago
[–] otter@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This one probably needs a NSFW filter, for "I was eating" reasons 😅

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago
[–] manmachine@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think I saw that in Dead Space

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[–] sober_monk@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, I know what my players are facing next time they venture into the Underdark...

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Are they facing the person who decided to test the edibility of the corpse nest?

[–] sober_monk@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Now that you mention it, hell yes they are!

[–] raven@lemmy.org 26 points 2 months ago

I would not want the honey from Resident Evil anywhere near my breakfast.

[–] Moxie_empathizer@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

So busy with "could" didn't worry with "should"

[–] alzymologist@sopuli.xyz 23 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Ok, as I understood it, there is "edible honey" that is really plant-based, and "carrion meat-based protein storage" that kind of works like pollen storage in honeybees nest. TBH, I find pollen more nutritional and tasty than honey. And I know that honey bees are opportunistic carnivores too. These things kind of come together in a story better left untold.

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Another one to add to the list when someone claims intelligent design. Approached from evolution, this makes sense - what works becomes a thing. And while it's disgusting to us, it's just a process and they're doing their part to help the cycle. From an ID pov... what the living fuck?

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[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Alright. I would. Gimme the goo.

Or would I contract a prion from it?

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

There's a whole raft of things that are technically edible, that I want nowhere near my mouth. Add this to the list.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

when i hear couples calling each other honey, this is what i will picture in my head

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They are also stingless, how interesting.

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[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Okay this might be more disgusting than the rotten Sardinian maggot cheese, even though the maggots can jump

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 11 points 2 months ago

That means someone tried it out

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Lovecraftian horror.

[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 10 points 2 months ago

Babe, wake up! New Vita Carnis monster just dropped!

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