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[–] Infrapink@thebrainbin.org 121 points 3 months ago (8 children)

I'm a line worker in a factory, and I recently managed to give a presentation on "AI" to a group of office workers (it went well!). One of the people there is in regular contact with the C_Os but fortunately is pretty reasonable. His attitude is "We have this problem; what tools do we have to fix it", and so isn't impressed by " AI" yet. The C_Os, alas, insist it's the future. They keep hammering on at him to get everybody to integrate "AI" in their workflows, but they have no idea how to actually do that (let alone what the factory actually does), they just say "We have this tool, use it somehow".

The reasonable manager asked me how I would respond if a C_O said we would get left behind if we don't embrace " AI". I quipped that it's fine to be left behind when everybody else is running towards a cliff. I was pretty proud of that one.

[–] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 3 months ago

Try giving them each an allen wrench and tell them to apply it to their daily lives to boost productivity.

[–] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That’s a banger line and I’m totally stealing it

[–] Infrapink@thebrainbin.org 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hey now, stealing is wrong.

I will give it to you as a gift.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 9 points 3 months ago

I won't steal it, I'll scrape it for my model.

[–] ravelin@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago

As usual, I fear for the reasonable manager's job.

Reasonable managers usually get plowed out of the way by unreasonable C levels who just see their reasonable concerns as obstructions.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Everyone bought so hard in on it that they need to (make you/us) use it. Otherwise it will be a financial disaster. It shit leaking down all the way.

(of course it has uses. But it's not AGI!)

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

In the early stages, it had potential to develop into something useful. Legislators had a chance to regulate it so it wouldn't become toxic and destructive of all things good, but they didn't do that because it would "hinder growth," again falling for the fallacy that growth is always good and desirable.

But to be honest, some of the earlier LLMs were much better than the ones now. They could have been forked, and developed into specialized models trained exclusively on technical documents relative to their field.

Instead, AI companies all wanted to have the biggest, most generalized models they could possibly develop, so they scraped as much data as they possibly could and trained their LLMs on enormous amounts of garbage, thinking "oh just a few billion more data points and it will become sentient" or something stupid like that. And now you have Artificial Idiocy that hallucinates nonstop.

Like, an LLM trained exclusively on peer-reviewed journals could make a decent research assistant or expedited search engine. It would help with things like literature reviews, collating data, and meta-analyses, saving time for researchers so they could dedicate more of their effort towards the specifically human activities of critical thinking, abstract analysis, and synthesizing novel ideas.

An ML model trained exclusively on technical diagrams could render more accurate simulations than one trained on a digital fuckton of slop.

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 49 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm so sick of fixing AI slop code, especially because there's no love for people who fix the slop, only for the people who shipped the slop.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hell I'm sick of fixing slop work from actual people

I am now semiconvinced that half of my co-workers are AI bots due to some of the dumb shit that they say

like literally AI hallucinations and reversals, coming from real people

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

When a human gives you bad code, you can pull them aside and coach them. With AI, that doesn't work.

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[–] Triumph@fedia.io 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They have to justify the cost of the consultants they paid to tell them to spend money on it.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

The emperor's new clothes in the trillions.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Any boss ramming a tool down their workers throats without understanding it or validating it's usefulness is not a particularly good boss.

There’s bosses, and then there’s directors, and managers, and c-suites. Essentially, the people who don’t do any real fucking work are super impressed by it.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's a productivity miracle for manager because they can bullshit their job faster and easier.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

yup, they don't realize it will replace them, not their workers. and if you are that manager reading this, remember their goal is no middle class.

That means you.

Not your grunts that get paid dogshit and are little more the soulless husks these days.

You.

[–] Kaz@lemmy.org 8 points 3 months ago

This, because all management does is communicate they think it's amazing..

Try and get it to do complicated or edge case things and it struggles, but management never ever touch complicated stuff! They offload it

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 months ago (5 children)

We just had an all hands where they were circlejerking about how incredible “AI” is. Then they started talking about OKRs around using that shit on a regular basis.

On the one hand, I’m more than a little peeved that none of the pointed and cogent concerns that I have raised on personal, professional, hobbyist, sustainability, environmental, public infrastructure, psychological, social, or cultural grounds - backed up with multiple articles and scientific studies that I have provided links to in previous all-hands meetings - have been met with anything more than hand-waving before being simply ignored outright.

On the other hand, I’m just going to make a fucking cron job pointed at a script that hits the LLM API they’re logging usage on, asking it to summarize the contents, intent, capabilities, advantages, and drawbacks of random GitHub repos over a certain SLOC count. There’s a part of me that feels bad for using such a wasteful service like in such a wasteful fashion. But there’s another part of me that is more than happy to waste their fucking money on LLM tokens if they’re gonna try to make me waste my time like that.

[–] acchariya@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you have to define OKRs to get people to use a tool, perhaps the tool is not a good investment.

Hey man you are preaching to the choir here lol

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 6 points 3 months ago

Textbook example of "When a measure becomes a target, it is no longer a good measure" (if it ever was)

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[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don’t work with computers or coding, yet even in early childhood education/therapy some people are pushing for AI. Someone used it to make “busy scene” pictures for students to find specific things in. I hate using them. Prior to this, we used “busy scene” images that are easy to find online, full of quirky, funny details that the kids enjoy spotting.

But I can barely look at the slop images that were generated. So many of the characters have faces that look like wax figures left in the hot summer sun. The “toys” in the scene are nonsensical shapes somewhere between unusable building blocks and poorly-formed puzzle pieces. Looking at the previous, human-made pictures brought me joy, but this AI garbage is a mess that makes me sad. There’s no direction, no fun details to find, just a chaotic, repetitive scene. I bet the kids I work with could draw something more interesting than this.

[–] Hazor@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

I've never understood these use cases, pushing for generative AI in places where there's already an abundance of human-made resources. Often for free. Is it just laziness? A case of "Why take 2 minutes for a Google search when I could take 1 minute for a generative AI prompt?"

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bosses aren't oblivious, AI isn't for the workers benefit. They need the workers to use the AI, so it can improve and begin to replace them.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 months ago (4 children)

That's part of how they're oblivious - mass adoption won't actually improve LLMs beyond a certain point, and we're long past it. The tech is fundamentally limited in what they can actually do, and instead of recognizing the limitations to work within them they're pretending we're gonna have AGI.

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[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 months ago

Our new tech lead loves fucking AI, which let's him refactor our terraform (I was already doing that), write pipelines in gitlab, and lots of other shiny cool things (after many many many attempts, if his commit history is any indication).

Funnily, he won't touch our legacy code. Like, he just answers "that's outside my perimeter" when he's clearly the one who should be helping us handle that shit. Also it's for a mission critical part of our company. But no, outside his perimeter. Gee I wonder why.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

I was asked to create a simple script... Great, I could have knocked that out in maybe 3 or 4 hours.

Boss insisted I use A.I. ... Fine whatever.

The code it spit out was OK, but didn't work... So I took it and started re coding and fixing the bugs.

It took over 3 hours to get that sloppy code to a working state.

Boss asked why it took so long, ai works in seconds. He didn't understand that I had to fix that crap code he forced me to use

Look, ai does pattern matching like a champ. But it can not create... It doesn't imagine...

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Management never has a clue what their employees actually do day-to-day. We're just another black box to them, tracked on a spreadsheet by accounting. Stuff goes in, stuff comes out, you can't explain that.

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Honestly at this point AI is bad and human critical thinking is the worst I've ever seen in my life.

I know people that I expect would collapse inward without AI holding their hands, and here's the surprise of this statement. Can't wait to see it happen. I'm really holding on for the implosions and REALLY hope they happen when I'm nearby.

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I have a simple anwer why managers think its smart and workers things its dumb. The managers see all kinds of documentaion from workers and to them the AI slop look the same. It looks the same due to the fact that the managers never take the time to comprehend what they are reading.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 12 points 3 months ago

I used some AI at work to do some stuff in polars, because I don't really know that library very well.

As a result I have a function that does what I asked for (I wrote tests), but I don't understand it and didn't really learn anything. Not a great trade.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Most of my conversations with my management is forced to be talking them out of the heinous baloney they're convinced of because "Gemini says.." No boss, Gemini made some shit up. Scroll past it or stop wasting my time.

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Dilbert manager energy

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

And the only reason they can get away with not charging the training and computation costs is bunch of rich people essentially gambling a small portion of their generational wealth.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 months ago

it's just great at pretending to do something, good enough to trick stupid execs

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

One of my college professors is mandating chat gpt

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