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I never understood authoritarian leftist policies until recently. Now, I definitely still have my criticism of their implementations and conditions. But, man, the actual purpose of them make a lot of sense.
Like, what are we supposed to do when a massive part of the population is currently cheering on "bombed them to the stone age" and "destroy their entire civilization".
Like, we gotta do something about that at some point. We just let absolute genocidal freaks poison our society forever? At some point you gotta do some reeducation. I'm open to other ideas on what to do. But I definitely understand the purpose better now.
Seems like someone like you might not fit the criteria. Maybe you are just enrolled in some weekend classes or something.
There's as many genocidal freaks on leftist side as on the radical right.
That's the problem with these structures once they are created you hand them over to anyone who is able to use them.
I understand why these policies were implemented, in any serious communist government that wants to stay communist, but if the wrong people from inside or outside get to it, many people will suffer.
NB. I'm an anarchist, so I support Marxist revolutions and the get killed by said revolutions ...
This implies that you got killed more than once. How did you survive that?
You are right! I have been defeated by reason and logic.
Ugh, that's the worst! My condolences
Rasputin has entered the chat
If a massive part of your population wants to go to war then you're in a pretty bad spot and there isnt much that can prevent that authoritarian or not. At that point you've failed to convince them there is a better path.
The problem I have with Authoritarians is they always think the guy they're putting in power isnt going to do anything bad but once he gets power there is nothing stopping them. If you're lucky the first guy might be good but it will get more and more rotten as the generations go on. Because there is little stopping them from implementing their policy they tend to over correct for any outcome and just end up fucking things up.
Sorry, I thought it was obvious I was talking about a post revolution society. Basically, the Parenti line of "After the revolution the liberals always ask 'Will there be freedom for the fascist?! Can they have their newspapers!?'"
I understand the authoritarian leftist policies that are needed in that stage of development.
Post revolution and pre revolution are the exact same world with the same people. A revolution isnt a magical moment where humans change and pressures disappear.
You'll never get to a point where the authoritarian policies are removed. If you're very very lucky things material conditions will improve and the living under the authoritarian regime will be tolerable until materials conditions to a point where people start wanting more than just food on the table and a roof over their head. But after that people run into the problem where they have no influence on their future or ability to pursue things outside the norm.
If material conditions get worse then life is miserable and nothing you can do until it gets so bad people violently revolt and do it all again.
It's so weird people say this when historically leftist states do actually end authoritarian policies. Like, the gulags were literally closed. Not to mention countless examples of China ending once needed and now no longer needed policies.
I think Anarchist live in a fantasy world sometimes and just like saying "the state never gives up power". It's like you guys try to apply the same theory to a bourgeoise run state and a proletariat run state under a communist party. History literally shows you they are massively different.
Can you maybe offer constructive criticism on how to improve them instead of just blindly acting like state power is some universal evil. After awhile it really just starts to sound like religious dogma. Like the state is some underworld character that you have to defeat.
Before i waste my time answering, do you actually think china is dialing back authoritarian policy? Theyve built the most dystopian surveillance network in the world and they STILL arrest people for free expression.
You really don't understand China lmao
But they have cameras! Cameras!
Traffic cameras are so dystopian, just ignore the 95+% government approval rate (according to harvard not the CPC), the whole process peoples democracy, the poverty alleviation, the corruption crackdowns. More cameras clearly means more dystopia.
There is no way you believe this. This is baiting
Open your mind dude. Stop falling for western propaganda
you gotta have a mind to open it though
Not helpful.
Believe what? A Harvard study and my own experience being born and raised here? Ah well I suppose we're just subhuman "authoritarians" in your eyes for being proud of all that our government has done for us and seeing it listen and react to our demands.
Harvard
Also:
Anti-traffic camera is just a view of privileged drivers, who think they got away with so much traffic infractions that they deserve to continue doing so, which makes the installation of speed camera so controversial everywhere.
I'll do us both a favor and not waste my time trying to respond to your stupidity.