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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Post revolution and pre revolution are the exact same world with the same people. A revolution isnt a magical moment where humans change and pressures disappear.

You'll never get to a point where the authoritarian policies are removed. If you're very very lucky things material conditions will improve and the living under the authoritarian regime will be tolerable until materials conditions to a point where people start wanting more than just food on the table and a roof over their head. But after that people run into the problem where they have no influence on their future or ability to pursue things outside the norm.

If material conditions get worse then life is miserable and nothing you can do until it gets so bad people violently revolt and do it all again.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's so weird people say this when historically leftist states do actually end authoritarian policies. Like, the gulags were literally closed. Not to mention countless examples of China ending once needed and now no longer needed policies.

I think Anarchist live in a fantasy world sometimes and just like saying "the state never gives up power". It's like you guys try to apply the same theory to a bourgeoise run state and a proletariat run state under a communist party. History literally shows you they are massively different.

Can you maybe offer constructive criticism on how to improve them instead of just blindly acting like state power is some universal evil. After awhile it really just starts to sound like religious dogma. Like the state is some underworld character that you have to defeat.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Before i waste my time answering, do you actually think china is dialing back authoritarian policy? Theyve built the most dystopian surveillance network in the world and they STILL arrest people for free expression.

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You really don't understand China lmao

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But they have cameras! Cameras!

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Traffic cameras are so dystopian, just ignore the 95+% government approval rate (according to harvard not the CPC), the whole process peoples democracy, the poverty alleviation, the corruption crackdowns. More cameras clearly means more dystopia.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There is no way you believe this. This is baiting

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Open your mind dude. Stop falling for western propaganda

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

you gotta have a mind to open it though

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago
[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Believe what? A Harvard study and my own experience being born and raised here? Ah well I suppose we're just subhuman "authoritarians" in your eyes for being proud of all that our government has done for us and seeing it listen and react to our demands.

Harvard

Also:

[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Anti-traffic camera is just a view of privileged drivers, who think they got away with so much traffic infractions that they deserve to continue doing so, which makes the installation of speed camera so controversial everywhere.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago

I'll do us both a favor and not waste my time trying to respond to your stupidity.