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No one cares about hypocrisy enough to change their vote. Besides Obama's tan suit didn't matter then, Fox News needed their daily sound bite, and Trump's blue suit doesn't matter now, we need a sound bite today. But if anyone is being hypocritical it's Fox for not being outraged over Trump. And of course the Republicans and MAGA do not care. It was always about having another controversy to use as a wedge against Obama to gain political power.

Trump knows criticism of any kind is bad for him. That's why he references the Tds, Trump derangement syndrome, in his rallies. When he runs out of things to blame Obama and Biden for he can just blame the people who don't vote for him. He knows it keeps his base happy, makes him look good to Republican voters, and that he was never getting Democrats or leftists to vote for him. The Democrats really need to learn that last one, but about Republicans.

I agree, and once would have dismissed the sociopolitical pragmatism described by the commenter above as “lowering our discourse to their level” or something of the sort.

I eventually realized that this instinctive criticism was valid only if they were still growing as people, and capable of more than what they are now. The assumption is that setting higher expectations might convince them to “elevate their discourse” if only to save face.

But what I’ve come to realize is that this was far too much to expect. By all the evidence available to date, these folks never advanced far beyond the emotional maturity of the average middle schooler. At this level of maturity, superficial and public humiliation is quite literally the most serious attack, as it bloodies waters presumed to be infested with sharks.

Yes it’s pathetic, and yes “stooping to their level” feels gross, but Republican voters are only enthused by policies which benefit them directly or hurt others they feel deserve it. Perceived power matters a lot to them, and seems to be attached to explicit expressions of it that are similarly pathetic— as in, truck nuts, “I am very smart,” “I have a great brain and concepts of a plan,” etc.

So public humiliation of trump for an otherwise petty and irrelevant issue (especially by someone he can’t touch without losing a chunk of his base) absolutely succeeds in making him look weak, and making Trump look weak is directly correlated with his voters’ loss of motivation to vote (see RWA personality type/disorder; it’s fascinating).

Enough of these successful offensives will cause his most die-hard voters to lose faith in him (caveat: to seek out somebody stronger) so to de-motivate a current right-wing conservative voter, likely we must accept that petty “mean girl” tactics are the only language they understand, due to their arrested emotional development, and robbing them of their “strongman” is both easy and effective. Ridicule the emperor with no clothes and his voters, who are themselves unclothed, might go home and rethink their fashion statement.

TLDR: It sucks but crass pragmatism may be warranted in this case. The first language of Trump voters is small-mindedness, and it’s often the only one they understand, so we might consider rolling our sleeves up and speaking it if only so future generations don’t have to.

Edit: corrected swype errors.

but everyone else found it ridiculous and made them skeptical of conservative media.

I found it ridiculous too and it made me very skeptical of conservative media. I wasn't the target audience. And with this blue suit attack line, I'm not the target audience either. It's not for me or most of the people on social media delivering the sound bite. Like the tan suit controversy before it, it's for conservatives.

When you are inundated nearly daily with real terrible stuff, boo need to undermine credibility by latching into this sort of fluff.

Conservatives either don't believe, don't care, or like that terrible stuff. We should boo that too, and continue to cover it, but we need to take the short amount of time it takes to knock the fluff out of the park. Our issue hasn't been making fun of Trump for the wrong things, it's not making fun of him enough. We haven't been aggressive enough and Democratic politicians definitely haven't been aggressive enough.

I bought into Jon Stewart's line that we need to focus on more substantive criticisms. Then in it turned out Trump voters like him because of the economy and the price of eggs? No, we needed to make MAGA's 'strongman' look weak in the eyes of his supporters. Septimaeus covered this concept comprehensively so review that comment if you haven't already.

If all we talk about is fluff that would be a mistake, but refusing to engage with the fluff at all is also a mistake.