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    [–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    The binary is called apt-get. There are others like apt-cache etc.

    Apt is a script that just figures out which binary to use and passes the arguments on.

    • apt update -> apt-get update
    • apt policy -> apt-cache policy
    [–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

    You know, I thought I knew why, but this was new information to me, so I guess I didn't.

    Thanks for sharing this concise explico!

    [–] dan@upvote.au 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

    These days, apt is for humans whereas apt-get is for scripts. apt's output is designed for humans and may change between releases, whereas apt-get is guaranteed to remain consistent to avoid breaking scripts.

    apt combines several commands together. For example, you can use it to install packages from both repos and local files (e.g. apt install ./foo.deb) whereas apt-get is only for packages from repos and you'd need to use dpkg for local packages.

    [–] fluckx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Huh TIL.

    I never considered trying to install a package from a local file through apt, but always dpkg. End result is the same of course. The web suggests dpkg rather than apt as well ( or at least the pages I ended up on ).

    [–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Discord is distributed as a .Deb if you don't use flatpak because they can't be bothered to set up a repo.

    The very useful thing about local file install is that unlike dpkg, apt will install dependencies automatically

    [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

    Same with Zoom.

    And here I am using gdebi for those kinds of local packages...

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    [–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    apt and apt-get both use dpkg internally, but these days it's essentially seen as an implementation detail that regular users don't need to know about.

    dpkg doesn't resolve dependencies (that's a feature of apt) which means that if you install a Debian package with dpkg, you'll have to manually install all dependencies first, and they won't be marked as automatically installed (so autoremove won't remove them if they're not needed any more). Using apt solves that.

    The web suggests dpkg because either the articles are old, or they're based on outdated knowledge :)

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    [–] Matombo@feddit.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    apt-get has a fixed format machine parseable output

    apts output tries to be more human readable and is subject to change

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    [–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Me use apt. Why use many letter when few letter do trick?

    [–] kurumin@linux.community 1 points 1 year ago

    Hahahaha Kevin

    [–] double_quack@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    "Hello, I would like to -Syu a package." "Can I -Rsc this?"

    Statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

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    [–] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Wait until you learn of aptitude...

    [–] adarza@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    aptitude has been my go-to since at least woody or potato.

    [–] CreatingMachines@fedia.io 0 points 1 year ago

    One of the lines of all time.

    [–] EfreetSK@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

    Pfff I know all about the aptitude, who do you think I am? Someone who doesn't know the aptitude? I use it all the time for a lot of ... stuff the aptitude does

    [–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Isn't this explained in the manpages for apt(8) and apt-get(8)?

    Do people don't read their manuals anymore?

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    [–] Microw@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    🎡

    APT, APT, APT, APT

    Just meet me at the...

    🎡

    [–] tal@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    apt is newer and mostly supersedes apt-get/apt-cache/etc tools, tries to be a more-approachable frontend.

    They interoperate though, so if you're happy with using a mix of them, go for it. I generally just use apt.

    EDIT: There were also some older attempts to produce a unified frontend, like aptitude.

    [–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    mostly supersedes apt-get/apt-cache/etc tools,

    Except for in scripts. Debian guarantee that the output format of apt-get will never change and thus it's safe to use in scripts that parse the output, whereas they don't have the same guarantee for apt, which can change between releases.

    [–] Colloidal@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

    Aptitude is great (my favorite way of managing packages), but it's a TUI program. You can use it as CLI, at which point it mimics apt-get.

    So I would say it never attempted to unify apt commands, by rather it successfully provided a user friendly way to do most (all?) of what you could do with apt CLI tools.

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    [–] lungdart@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

    Nala gang rise up!

    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I'll just copy whatever is in the guide I'm following at the time.

    [–] victorz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Here lie dragons. Make sure you understand commands that you run on your computer. πŸ‘

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    [–] four@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    When working with RHEL I always flip a coin to see if I'm gonna use yum or dnf this time

    [–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Wasn't yum just mapped to dnf a while back?

    [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    What is dnf anyway? I see that used on later RH-based distros instead of yum.

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    [–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    apt is a newer, more user-friendly front-end for apt-get and apt-cache.

    apt = combines commands like install, remove, update, upgrade into one tool, with prettier output

    #apt-get = older, lower-level, more script-friendly For normal use, just use apt now. For scripting where 100% backward compatibility matters, use apt-get.

    [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    TIL apt isn't literally the same thing as apt-get

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    [–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    But apt-get also has install, remove, update and upgrade...

    [–] cmhe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Yes, but apt-get is missing search for instance, because that relates to the cache, so apt-cache provides it.

    apt combines all those often used commands, and provides a nicer shell presentation.

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    [–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Apt: get whatever is in the cached package list

    Apt-get: lookup the package to see the latest version and get that one

    Unless you always apt update, apt-get is the go to choice for modern day Linux

    There's also the apt-apt command, who triggers any audiophile to start complaining about mainstream music quality these days

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I disagree. According to Debian's own documentation, apt is a newer front-end for your daily CLI updating and installing needs.
    It has simplified syntax, and combines the most-used functions and options.
    It is not meant for use in scripts, cause the syntax may change between versions.

    The dependency-solver in the back-end is identical.

    tl/dr:
    apt is shorter to type and will have prettier output, starting with Debian 13.
    Use apt-get inside scripts.

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    [–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Following this post for replies, for a friend of course

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    [–] Barometer3689@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    jesus I feel old, and I am only in my 30s. I remember not having apt. How young are linux users nowadays?

    [–] splendoruranium@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    jesus I feel old, and I am only in my 30s. I remember not having apt. How young are linux users nowadays?

    Well... how old were you when you got your first computer? That young.

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    [–] ace@lemmy.ananace.dev 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    One has super cow powers, the other one doesn't.

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