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[–] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Legit had someone from my last job start going on a break room tirade about how "those damn unions just want your money" but strangely had no rebuttal when asked why giving them 2% of your paycheck is a bad thing when they negotiated your RAISE to be 15% and your health benefits add up to an additional savings of around 20%.

I'm SO SORRY you're getting extra money and healthcare rather than the NOTHING you had before.

Nowadays I like to print up cards with unionizing information on them, facts vs myths, links to read up more, anti-union tactics, links to join unions, links to find HELP setting up a union, and basically anything I could cram into a business card. Now I leave about 10 of them any time I go into a non union store.

Given how previous management has reacted to "someone" leaving these in the break room, I'm sure I've caused a few sleepless nights.

[–] Spuddaccino@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For union dues, I'll sometimes bring up strikes. People know that when unions strike, they aren't working, and when they aren't working, they aren't getting paid. What they don't realize is that most unions pay the employees during strikes, and that money has to come from somewhere.

[–] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're literally partially making sure you still get PAID when shit happens.

Very good point, and I honestly wonder how common that knowledge even is.

Then again, almost all anti-union propaganda hinges on people not knowing enough about the subject to call it out. As with most propaganda.

[–] Gyrolemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Nevermind! I see what was said was that the unions can pay striking workers but it wont be the standard rate. So striking could cause lost wages.

[–] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago
[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hasn't Amazon been caught deducting pay arbitrarily from delivery drivers?

In fact, given a lot of them seem to be able to be terminated at a moment's notice, so no guarantees of pay there either. And work rules? What?

Oh and talking to someone paid by the company about your grievances Vs someone independent seems like a worse alternative than the final bubble.

Man, these guys really suck at propaganda

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

There are some serious issues with unions. For instance sometimes workers are tricked into signing papers that allow the union to have control over the worker. I'm not condoning Amazon but to say Unions aren't always great.

As always you should make up your own mind

[–] sederx@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

That's a lie

[–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Fuck off Jeff