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[–] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (23 children)

I bet the Uyghur people find this meme goddamn hilarious. A real laugh riot.

EDIT: Also, pretty sure there's some famous photos involving tanks that dispell this crap meme, or are you dipshits going to gaslight everyone about that, too?

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (18 children)

A video of a guy standing in front of a line of tanks in which they stop, let the guy climb up to the entrance hatch and then he chats with the tank driver for a bit before leaving is your proof that actually China is as bad as American propaganda suggests?

Have you actually watched the video in question or are you just basing your statement on what the cultural milieu that American propaganda produced led you to believe happened in that video?

Also, why are you saying "photos" of tanks? Did you actually not even know it was a video? Why chime in in the first place if you're this ignorant about the topic? Why are your opinions so strong if you don't know anything?

[–] TheLunatic@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So we are just going to ignore the dead bodies along the side of the road? Sure the tanks didn't squish that one guy but a whole lot of people were still killed.

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] corvidenjoyer@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

EDIT: Also, pretty sure there's some famous photos involving tanks that dispell this crap meme, or are you dipshits going to gaslight everyone about that, too?

How can we gaslight you if the entirety of the "free world" already did this to you, tell you he was crushed? Or are you going to call cbs communist now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaojdRThXbY

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[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Gets on Lemmygrad
Sees a post about China with 128 new comments
thread
Knows what I'm about to see.

Edit: fed thread thread

[–] kasama@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

You know the comments section will be great when you see libs getting dunked on and hopelessly trying to go thermonuclear.

[–] King_Simp@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn the liberals really got to this one. Sorry comrade ):

[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I'm used to it, it's half the fun

[–] Magicicad@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does adopting a non American perspective make me brainwashed? Genuinely confused here.

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

To liberals, yes. Anything that isn't regurgitating US and pro imperialist propaganda means you are brainwashed.

[–] Pathfinder@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Since have some libs who waltzed in here, here’s Qiao Collective’s reading list for the Tiananmen Square protests in 1989 in case they want to actually try and learn something.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Their cops murder people too, like for real? Thats what cops do! Chinese cops arent suddenly and magically not bastards! What a shit meme, i dont even really dislike china all that much but this is fuckin wank

Super fucking embarrassing for a communist forum

[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cops in capitalist states aren’t magically bastards. They’re bastards specifically because they serve bourgeois interests against proletarian ones.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also worth noting, I'm pretty sure US cops are some of the worst in the world, even when compared to other capitalist countries. Like they developed in part from slave patrols and in modern day, have been known to get psychopathic training that glorifies murdering people. On top of the fact some of them are literal gangs.

[–] burlemarx@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yes, but this is not the point. We should not rely only on moral arguments against bourgeois institutions, because the same thing can be said against socialism. The thing is, the police is an instrument of the capitalists because the laws in capitalist country favors the capitalists. It's basically the superstructure as a product and in a dialectical relationship with the base structure.

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[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Chinese cops kill an average of 2 people a year, and having spent a good amount of time there, no one has the fear of them they do in the states. Public perception of police range from support to complete and total disrespect and disregard for their authority. Could vary by province I suppose, it is a big country, but I’ve not seen anything to suggest that police there are violent or oppressive.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Their cops murder people too

According to what information?

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They are police! ALL COPS ARE BASTARDS? since when was this a new concept

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to be snarky or pedantic when I ask, what is a cop to you? Would you consider a cop to be any enforcer of a formalized state structure that has a monopoly on violence? Anyone who takes on an armed role for organized community defense?

It's very easy and sensible to go with ACAB for the US, but when we're talking about for example a communist vanguard in defense of a working class state socialist project, if we just say it is identical fundamentally, then what are we left with to defend against the violence of the colonizer, imperialist, etc.? Or if we were to say it's bad when it's a "dictatorship of the proletariat", but good if it's community defense, what constitutes the difference and how is the 2nd one strong enough on a practical level to achieve liberation?

[–] burlemarx@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

In other words, ignoring the context and interactions of a category is the same as removing the dialectics from materialist analysis. Then we limit ourselves to analysing the reality with metaphysics.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

What would you say is the role of police in the state?

[–] King_Simp@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure how you expect to secure proletarian class interests without police. What, inframaterialism?

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

According to anarkiddies that view any authoritative structure as bad as evil because they cannot comprehend reading basic theory.

[–] CarlMarks@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

ACAB isn't a general communist position. Communists have always implemented policing in every state they run. ACAB is a strategic position to hold against cops whose primary function under a capitalist state is to protect the interrsts of private property.

As part of the state, we want it to eventually wither away. But to immediately abolish all cops after a revolution is more of an anarchist position (though anarchists have historically also still had people deputized to do cop things).

[–] That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We can protest without government retaliation?

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

So can chinese people.

[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

TOTAL LIB-DEATH

92837426263 MINDLESS DRIVE-BY COMMENTS

NATO KNOWS NO EVIL.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Americans waking up in cold sweat in the middle of night dreaming about tank man images meanwhile there are multiple videos of American pigs mowing down protestors with card during the Floyd protests.

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Yes but see, those protestors where causing traffic disruptions and carbrains will gladly cheer on the genocidal slaughter of anyone that would slow their vehicle down by a fraction of a mph.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (30 children)

China has a pretty tight grip on the news and media people get to see from there. I'd take that with a grain of salt.

A better example would be europe

[–] HumongousChungus@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the Great Firewall's intended function is not to restrict Chinese news and media from reaching you, but to keep out those reactionaries who often say "a better example would be europe" to everything they see

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It does go both ways. Even for super old stuff. One recent example was blatantly obvious when people tried asking deepseek r2 about tiananmen square

[–] HumongousChungus@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not really the network firewall I was referring to, but if having a major competitor is the main thing keeping open-source AI vibrant, stopping all LLMs from having a violent-but-civil western tech bro viewpoint, then bring it on!! We had no good reasoning models to use before, but now you can roll your own with whatever ideology or bias you want, thanks to China.

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[–] sudo_halt@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Iranian government has a million times stronger internet filter and news somehow propagates in the middle of a blackout, you somehow think a nation of 1.4 billion people can keep shit under wrap?

Spend some time thinking it's free

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They recently announced they invented a time machine. China hasn't been trough a brain drain that bad. In the end, competence matters a lot

[–] v12riceburner@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Imagine thinking they are one entity with no individual differences. Stop being wh*te for a second and think for yourself. Inshallah we will find a cure for your sickness one day.

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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Germany has made it illegal to be vocally against Palestinian genocide, and last I heard was considering requiring immigrants to pledge loyalty to pissrael. That's like a parody of Scary Communist Badguy Country.

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

There wasn't much consideration. Part of the citizenship application process includes a statement the applicant has to sign which says something along the lines of "Israel's existence is part of German national security and it has a right to exist."

The new government may go even further though, by revoking the German citizenship of dual nationals who are affiliated with "anti-semitic, terrorist, or extremist" groups. No legal definition for those categories is forthcoming.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think the degree of control has been greatly exaggerated by a news media apparatus incentivized to demonize its geopolitical rivals.

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[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Lol @ Europe doesn't have a tight grip on news and media.

And yes I know thay Europe is a lot of countries with varying policies.

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[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

American police are just more expensive siveto pay off than Chinese police.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Source: I made it the fuck up

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