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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh god. And this was mostly used against kids.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

None of these detectors can work. It's just snake oil for technophobes.

Understand what "positive predictive value" means to see that. Though, in this case, I doubt that even the true rates can be known or that they remain constant over time.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if they did, they would jsut be used to train a new generation of AI that could defeat the detector, and we'd be back round to square 1.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly, AI by definition cannot detect AI generated content because if it knew where the mistakes were it wouldn't make them.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

That doesn’t really follow logically… a 15 year old can find the mistakes a 5 year old makes. The detection system might be something other than an LLM, while the LLM might be gpt2.

But yes humans write messily so trying to detect ai writing when it’s literally trained on humans is a losing battle and at this point completely pointless.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

53% is abysmal, it might as well be a coin flip. FYI this article is about a random one called BrandWell, popular AI detectors like GPTZero are much more accurate.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

All of it is snake oil, it's fundamentally not possible to detect ai generated text without watermarking it first.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Much more accurate than guessing is not a strong endorsement.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It was used in schools...

Congratulations, you just created a generation of children who will never truly trust authority figures.

more useful than most of what's taught

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have a competing technology that is nearly as accurate. For only $50 I'll send you this device that you will have unlimited license usage rights to. While not 53% accurate like my competitor, its proven by scientific studies to be 50% accurate. I also offer volume discounts if you buy 10 the price drops to only $45 per device. Sign up now!

[–] tal@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

https://apnews.com/article/trump-penny-treasury-mint-192e3b9ad9891d50e7014997653051ba

Trump says he has directed US Treasury to stop minting new pennies, citing rising cost

[–] coronach@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, he actually did something good?

[–] tyler@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Kinda yes, but in actuality no. Unless we get rid of the nickel as well, the treasury is required by law to replace the pennies removed from circulation with nickels. Nickels cost even more to mint, as a percentage of their value, than pennies, so it’s actually going to cost the taxpayers even more money.

But yes we no longer have to deal with pennies. Turns out we should actually get rid of dimes and quarters too, but that ain’t gonna happen anytime soon.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

Trump on a streak of rare Ws. No more pennies and kicking Poilievre out of the Canadian Parliament.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

That is supposed to be reliable? It doesn't even have a subscription service.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Actually is 51% favouring the side facing up when flipped

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Shhh! We're releasing that accuracy update in the next version of the product. We need to sell through our existing inventory of the less accurate ones.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

That's easy to fix. Just randomize it. Flip a coin to see which side faces up.

[–] Skydancer@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago

The worst part is they may weasel out of it. If the claim was "it detects 98% of AI generated samples" it could do that while having a high false positive rate. I hate this timelime.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

On social media the standard is to call everything AI by default. It's nearly impossible to prove otherwise before people lose interest in the thread, so you can feel right every time. Nothing but win!

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

54% of the time it's right 98% of the time

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago

"They've done studies you know. 53% of the time, it works 98% of the time."