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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 94 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Man you remember when Michael Reinoehl shot a white nationalist in self defense and was gun downed in a hail of bullets the second LEOs got site of him.

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I remember reading about that. Quite a lot of fuckery, though I'm also not surprised. Despite Portland being very blue, the surrounding rural area is deep red with right-wing nutjobs. Up there with Michigan-crazy right-wing militia. So odds are good police knew the guy from Saturday nights...

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Kid gloves for white nationalists, jackboots for the rest of us

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

The reasoning is implicit, but obvious.

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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 63 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I kinda expected a dude who dressed as a cop to murder multiple people to have a better plan than “run and hide in the woods.” I was totally expecting a long, drawn out manhunt. Glad it’s over and people can sleep peacefully though

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Minnesota has a lot of woods to run off and hide in.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (5 children)

How much of that is within walking distance of the vehicle he abandoned though?

[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Grew up a stones throw away. Bluntly, not much. It's a fairly dense suburban area. The closest densely wooded area is just the two county parks, one about 3 miles East and the other about 2.5 miles south. Neither is very big though. For a larger area there's a nature preserve about 15 miles west, but that's still pretty limited.

True wilderness is about 60 miles north.

Now Sibley county, where he was found, is quite rural but not wild at all, similar distance to wilderness.

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[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He might have but was interrupted in the middle of the second murder.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He wasn't going to stop with two. Had a list of ~70 people he wanted dead for either being Democrats or providing medical care to women. Thr guy's plan didn't involve getting away; just a lot more dead people.

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[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago

I kinda expected a dude who dressed as a cop to murder multiple people to have a better plan than “run and hide in the woods.

It's almost like he isn't very good at thinking things through.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Every last one of these insane fucks thinks themselves some kind of chosen, picked-by-god leader of the apocalypse main-character in the stupidest fairy-tale they never grew out of. They aren't just narcissistic, that implies some level of brain-power. This is a whole other level of self-absorption that turns off conscious thought.

I'm not even being hyperbolic, fundamentalist Christian doctrine is meant to strip of you thinking, of rationalization. You can be a very smart person and not have conscious thought about critical aspects of life or the world around you. Thinking isn't the same as being able to drive cars, go to work, plan murders, etc. You can do all that stuff without having a mental dialogue or monolog that lets you reason out ideas in your head. You only get that inner-dialogue if you've grown up in an environment that allows for it, by training you to question and figure things out on your own.

Religion doesn't let you figure things out on your own. You exist as this shape moving through life just waiting to die so Jesus can wrap you up in his arms and rock you to sleep like a lil' baby or something. It's a death cult. There is no value towards life of anyone. I was raised in that environment but never quite got the same incentive for heaven because it never made sense and seemed like eternal bliss would be a boring nightmare you could never wake up from.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

People who do wild shit like this generally don't have a plan for afterwards.

[–] okmko@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I sometimes visit the successor site of the_donald to see them erase their memories in real-time. They were 1000% sure it was a Dem black person yesterday. They even had insider info from police connections. Today it's crickets and false flag.

(There's always, always, without fail, accusations of false flags. From CIA, from FBI, from antifa, from George Soros, from Bill Gates. How do you even talk to people like this?)

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Alex Jones sets a lot of that up too. It’s really disturbing. He’ll talk about how there’s going to be a false flag shooting preemptively any time there is a big protest or similar planned. It’s almost like he’s outright calling for it to happen, giving permission to some psycho with a gun because they know he’ll cover for them.

[–] okmko@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Oh I don't doubt Alex Jones is still at it. I don't follow closely at all to the conservative-sphere but they all absolutely incite stochastic terrorism.

And they all are quick to discard previous and current beliefs as if they never happened. It's kind of crazy how efficient they all are at converging on the same new belief when the previous one becomes too indefensible.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

You don’t it will only tighten the brainwashing screws even tighter

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What site is that? Truth social?

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[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Trump considering a pardon in 3...2...1...

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 36 points 11 months ago

If they get him on state charges, only the Minnesota Board of Pardons can do that. Which consists of the Governor Tim Walz (D), Chief Justice of the Minnesota Supreme Court (appointee of Walz), and Minnesota Attorney General (D)

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

trump doesn't get to pardon state charges, so have fun with that.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Who's going to stop him? There has been a lack of that lately.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I would normally post the "That's not how this works. that's not how any of this works" meme in response to this..

But the rule of law is over. We're still masquerading as if the music hasn't stopped. It's not clear to me what law, even means. So like sure, maybe he will. It's absurd even in principle, but here we are dancing in the absurd.

If a government isn't bound by laws, them laws have no meaning.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago

Yep, same. I am continuously baffled at people who are surprised when the regime does something wildly illegal and outside of their jurisdiction. The question is no longer “who’s going to let them”. The question has become “who’s going to stop them”, and the answer thus far, in the context of any part of our officialdom, is “absolutely fucking nobody”.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

There is a concept of “rule of law” vs “rule by law”.

You are confused about “law” because what you are seeing now is the latter.

This is what kings did ~250 years ago in Europe. But then they started getting their heads cut off and quickly realized they had to change their approach. Some did, some died.

Many people on Lemmy will tell us “bring out the guillotines”. I would love that. But I don’t think it’s that simple anymore. We have consolidated wealth and power in such a way that even rolling heads will not solve it.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The state prisons of MN? They would be holding him and have no reason to release him on Trumps orders since they don't work for him.

Best I can imagine is that the Feds charge him with murder, Trump pardons him for the federal charges, the state charges him with murder, then the SCOTUS rules that he can't be charged due to double jeopardy.

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[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Doesn’t mean he won’t try. You’ve got to remember- trump is very stupid.

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[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

Good thing he can't touch state charges.

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[–] ramenbelly@lemmy.zip 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

This Vance has spent the last decade trying to de-Trumpify the Republican Party:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Vance_(politician)

This guy is J.D. Vance's cousin and volunteered to fight in Ukraine, was really upset with J.D. about Ukraine:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Vance

During his three years in Ukraine, Nate Vance fought in some of the war's fiercest battles. According to reports, he saw frontline combat in major engagements including the battles of Kupiansk, Bakhmut, Avdiivka, and Pokrovsk – hotspots in eastern Ukraine that experienced intense and sustained fighting.[16][17]

Vance remained in Ukraine until early 2025. He was formally discharged from Ukrainian service in January 2025.[18]

[–] ramenbelly@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago

Well our current VANCE killed the dog at one house for no fucking reason

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

There is some level of divine irony in the fact that the vice president went from "JD who?" to now "Oh same as that killer guy" in common parlance. That smoke-eyed, infant-faced, nazi sofa-molester can't catch a break and I'm here for it.

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[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm glad he was taken alive

Let him rot in a cell rather than becoming a martyr

At least, until the Tangerine Toddler makes noises about pardoning him...

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Murder charges with life in prison would be sent out by the State, not pardonable by the president

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