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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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TNG s5e2 " Darmok"

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[–] aviationeast@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Never Gonna give you up. Never Gonna let you down.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] aviationeast@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

There are 4 gifs!

[–] boobookittyfrick@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My god look at those swell moves

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] OS2Warp@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Appreciate the callback to my earlier work.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Someone translate, please!

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

From panel 2:

  • Angrily demanding answers
  • mission accomplished
  • and the captain?
  • perished
  • understood
  • there was a creature that killed him
  • acceptable, our business is concluded
  • want his dagger back?
  • nope
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Homer, thinking of potato chips.

[–] Niksolo80@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Captain America, on the conference chair.

[–] Knossos@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] negativenull@piefed.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That silhouette is familiar but I'm missing the reference

The dude in the big Lebowski?

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Wondrous.

From 2 years back.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Newly pregnant couple, two lost in a hospital.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Yutaro, his palm outstretched.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Picard, Riker, and Worf, their palms covering their faces.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 4 points 2 weeks ago

Starfleet at Wolf 359

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Wesley with Geordis visor shocked.

[–] Seimhe@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Data with Tasha: his fly open.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Once again, the langue makes no sense. Unless it evolved from regular speech patterns other species have. Because it would require children to have been born with knowledge they shouldn’t understand to begin speaking the language properly.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

The knowledge base has to be shared, yes. It's aggravating, but we can let it go for the sake of the memes.

[–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Stephenson goes for a more believable version of this concept in Diamond Age. The most common written language is pictograms, with a minority being able to read words. I suppose we could imagine the people then going from this stage to speaking the sounds associated with an image without understanding that the sounds form words with individual meaning.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've actually started doing this to cut down on my use of swearing. Having to take a moment to think of an appropriate metaphor for the company I'm in and not blurt out a convenient "FUCK" helps me not get so stressed about the little things that go wrong.

[–] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Picard: That's how you communicate, isn't it? By meme.

Dathon:

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

I think the Tamarians must have a second, more literal language to describe the events the metaphors are about, because you don't understand a metaphor unless you know the story behind it. For example, saying some event is someone's Waterloo only makes sense if you know Waterloo was the site of Napoleon's final defeat. To know "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra" is about working together, you have to know that they worked together.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Not sure i entirely agree, i think you could conceivably teach someone the meaning of a saying without conveying its origin, through sheer repetition in context.

Isn't that how we came up with language in the first place? Point at a stone and make one specific grunting noise. Grugzug, your fellow caveman, will eventually connect the two if you keep doing it

And i also just thought of the fact that we have plenty of sayings in everyday use, that the people using them can rarely place in their correct historical context. Take Romeo and Juliet, to this day people think of romance first and foremost. And not fucked up teenage suicide and silly blood feuds.

[–] rbb36@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I concur. I am not a young person. And yet, I have an idea of what "rule" means in the title of a shitpost, and I shouldn't even know what "shitpost" means. I have never seen a formal definition for either of them. I don't think "rule" (in that context) even has a rigid definition yet. The meaning isn't just communicated by example; it is being invented by example.

I still feel like there has to be a really big turtle at the bottom who is not standing on another turtle. Words that mean things in themselves. But I've never been there.

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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

There could also be something like an ancestral memory going on. Some sort of process that imprints the basic meaning of major events onto the next generation that forms the anchor for their meme only language.

[–] Tango@piefed.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

The Tamarian language is like C++ whilst normal language is binary, or assembly. Sure, all C++ is based on assembly and assembly is based on binary, but once you've invented a higher-level language, you're not gonna have much patience for lower-level languages anymore; that's for the compiler to worry about. You might still use binary - or, more realistically, hexadecimal - for limited purposes like RGB codes, but outside of that it's all higher-level, baby.

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[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Indeed, they would require a base knowledge and more straightforward means to initially communicate.

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