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wanna see a magic trick? (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by can@sh.itjust.works to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world
 

But seriously what kind of predatory policy is that in the first place?

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[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 325 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

predatory policy

gambling site

same thing.

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 257 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

be this site

advertise to kids using discord servers

if they win from gambling, ban them bc they're underage

if they lose, it's their loss anyway

double your profits with a simple trick

btw this is not just a meme. This is something they literally do, see this vid for more details: https://youtu.be/yJZ9SwRArqs

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 128 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My nephew fell for this trick. He's not a child, but he was gambling online on a European site as an American. He won big, tried to withdraw, they asked for a European passport. RIP his entire account.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

For any finincial anything always do a round trip with a $10 too see if it's possible.

[–] cameron_@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I've heard of scammers paying out small amounts deliberately to reel in more money so this still doesn't guarantee it's real.

[–] Ironrod@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Even legitimate gambling websites do this, I was able to cash out £150 fine but a few weeks later when I tried to cash out at £700 I had to supply id. I was still able to deposit more money from the same card though, supplied my id, cashed it all out, told them to delete all of my details and account and never looked back

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[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

He was putting in thousands, about $5,000 USD. They were letting him withdraw a few hundred here and there. Then he won something like $10k that's when they did a Know Your Customer check. Which he failed, obviously. They kept his principal and his winnings, lol.

Hopefully he took it as a lesson. Not much else he can do. They said on their terms of service Americans were explicitly forbidden. Not much recourse.

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[–] fonix232@fedia.io 153 points 2 weeks ago (26 children)

Having worked in the industry, there's actually an explanation that is only half predatory.

Most of those addicted to gambling can't and won't shake it. They refuse to seek professional help, and the decision to quit only lasts the "temporary embarrassment" phase of losing all their money. Meaning: most gamblers who decide to quit (and we've got statistics on this), about 80-85% on average, is back to their favourite gambling service within 60 days.

At the company I worked at, the primary reasoning for having a cooldown period instead of instant deletion was the following:

  • the cooldown period can already be linked with our lockout service which blocks the person from using the service for X days, so if they REALLY wanted to, they could block themselves for the entire time (and it surprisingly is being offered as part of the cooldown period)
  • if there's a regulatory block (meaning you got formally diagnosed by a doctor, and that doctor, with your consent, reached out to the local regulatory body and requested a blacklist entry for you), the service is blocked either way
  • the users who do come back, don't want to lose their "stats" - their previous bets, wins, losses, etc. would all be gone with a new account. In fact, the number one complaint from returning users was that their data was gone.

Basically the idea is "if they're coming back anyway, we might as well make it easy for them".

Now the thing is, for all the regulations... Gambling services are unfortunately not responsible for the addiction they cause. In my opinion they should be, just as a doctor would be held responsible if they fed into a patient's painkiller addiction. And for all the regulatory crap... most people in gambling companies aren't interested in compliance that much. It's very much a "do it then say sorry and fix it in post" attitude from the leadership and higher management. So while the above might be the "official" explanation, I have zero doubt that the decision makers don't give a fuck and are specifically doing it to psychologically pressure people into coming back.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 73 points 2 weeks ago

Basically the idea is "if they're coming back anyway, we might as well make it easy for them".

That sadly sums it up pretty well.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 40 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Basically the idea is "if they're coming back anyway, we might as well make it easy for them".

What exactly is the non-predatory half of that?

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[–] nwtreeoctopus@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

...just as a doctor would be held responsible if they fed into a patient's painkiller addiction.

Yeah! Like all those doctors who got in trouble for the opioid crisis!

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Oooh, I saw a part of that firsthand.

Relatives in Maine, three at the same address, got hooked up with a pill-mill in Biddeford.

One sold all his Oxycontins each month, made a grand off of it.

How he passed his mandatory "pill count" every week was to get the balance of pills he needed from his other relatives. They all had the same prescription. Would go in, be one pill over or under ("I felt good last week and forgot.." or "yaah, it was rotten for the pain so I popped an extra..") and skirted the system for a couple of years.

Coasted along fine UNTIL the Feds went and busted a Walgreen's Pharmacy Warehouse in Florida that was the source of the pills...

The next day, 4 of the 7 MD's at the pill mill disappeared into the ether. A few months later the grapevine relays that two lost their licenses one got some sort of penalty and one likely left the country never to be seen again.

Fucking crazy times.

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[–] StabbingSky@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Bro, many doctors are terrified of catching the DEAs attention to the point where people who actually need them have trouble getting all controls, not just opioids.

A bunch of doctors running pill mills did get busted for it.

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 131 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But seriously what kind of predatory policy is that in the first place?

It's a gambling site.

Gambling is inherently predatory. It's addictive. Gambling sites prey on this addiction. They're not gonna let you go so easily. The wait period is to see if you're really one of their best customers, unable to go cold-turkey.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 22 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

But it's so obviously flagrantly predatory... I really thought this would be too far, like legally.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Have you seen who's making the laws?

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[–] Mr_Fish@lemmy.nz 111 points 2 weeks ago

A gambling service has a predatory policy to make breaking an addiction as hard as possible. Yep that sounds about right

[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 93 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

I started dipping into watching regular cable again since we have it at the moment bundled with our internet, and man the commercials are bleak now. It’s all weight loss medication, depression medication, and gambling apps.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The programming is pretty fucking bleak, too. My elderly parents have cable TV and I try to watch it sometimes to entertain myself while I'm taking care of them, and I can't find a fucking thing worth watching despite them having 500 channels or so. I always end up watching Beat Bobby Flay on the Food Channel and I can't stand that fucking show.

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[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 84 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck is a cooldown period?

[–] StabbingSky@lemmy.zip 204 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

To let their addiction drag them back in.

[–] PushButton@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

That's the perfect reply.

[–] lemonwood@lemmy.ml 81 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 weeks ago

And polymarket, despite being a literal gambling site, is actually fraud

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

As an European, the "you can't close your account too fast, this process is mandatory" thing would be a one way to a trial.

[–] Nowtayneicangetinto@thelemmy.club 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You Europeans and your consumer protection laws... I love getting ripped off and taken advantage of by companies!

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

What country is "you can't close your account unless you go 90 days without using it first" legal in?

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The USA. Facebook also does this.

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[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

This looks like a gambling app. So it's not that you can't close it until it's not used. Voluntary exclusion is a mandatory policy required by legislation so a gambling addict can ask a casino to functionally ban them. This app is extra predatory in that they don't allow a permanent ban right away. Their goal is to make it take multiple requests so an addict can relapse and spend more money and it's the addicts fault.

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[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 48 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

fucking hell they are really playing on people's gambling addiction aren't they

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[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This predatory nature is going into my thesis on how gacha gaming led to the downfall of online porn

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 weeks ago
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Janx@piefed.social 16 points 2 weeks ago

I'm uncovering my calves... Ooo hot, right?

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[–] stinkytofuisgood@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 weeks ago

This is super clever. I cannot believe this never occurred to me, and I discovered it in a Lemmy 'shitpost' no less.

Let's keep up the memes and shitposts in this category!

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

its called "laxed regulation for dubious reasons". happens all the time because government officials should probably wear F1 gear with all their sponsor logos slapped on them.

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[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 34 points 2 weeks ago

It's the wild West meets end stage capitalism out there.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

So you have to abstain for 91 days to be able to close your account??? Fucking slime

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[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

This feels more like a LifeProTip than a shitpost

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[–] srasmus@fedia.io 27 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I'm confused by 24 hour self exclusion, followed by 90 day self exclusion. So 91 day self exclusion? Why not just say that?

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 2 weeks ago

Another trick is to change your state to California, which has a click to cancel law.

The FTC made C2C a requirement nationwide for the US but Trump undid that in 2025.

[–] captcha@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 25 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I wonder how permanent closure is different from permanent lockout, but maybe it is similar enough in this case (I expect, they keep your data in the latter case)

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[–] NotAnOtter@lemmus.org 24 points 2 weeks ago

That policy is likely illegal.

But the same can be said about gambling platforms.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

site now pairs an age of 12yo with the name and identity, that spreads out to data brokers, and the other 9384575 'partners' they have... and soon enough, facebook, xhitter, reddit, google, microsoft, sony, nintendo, steam.... all start demanding proof of id or no access.

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[–] Nonprophet@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago
[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Hilarious way to terminate an account very quick.

Also shows that using automation for accounts administration.

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