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Its an old LG, but given the recent light on the lengths they'll go to spy on us, I figured this guy was better off without any ability to even connect wirelessly. Don't know if the Ethernet still works but I plan on keeping my TVs as dumb as possible, HDMI only.

If you're wondering how to open lg TVs you just have to remove all the screws then start pulling open at the bottom and open the clips going up. With the TV face down on a soft surface just keep pulling on the back case from the bottom, it'll take some effort to pop open. The top edge folds open more like a hidge than clips.

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[–] Doom@lemmy.world 201 points 2 weeks ago (26 children)

I knew a guy years back that would pop open any device with an internet or GPS connection and physically disable it. He was telling us about it at work one day. Most of our coworkers told him it was paranoid overkill. I bet that dude is laughing his ass off right now.

[–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 70 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Me being paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after me.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Nope. It's not paranoia if they're really out to get you.

[–] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Its only paranoia if theyre not out to get you. Otherwise its sparkling anxiety

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

A friend of mine's household got a smart tv with speech commands. They didn't really understand why I didn't like. The kicker? They're also somewhat paranoid about government and corporate overreach, but not to the extent that they'll do anything.

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[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not paranoia if you're right.

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[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The other day I saw an old comedy and the "crazy" guy was saying that he doesn't use cellphones (which were new at the time) because the CIA can listen to it.

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[–] guy@piefed.social 187 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

How dare you slightly modify a thing you own!

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 72 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Psssshhhh!!!! Get a load of THIS guy! Thinking he owns something just because he pays his own money to buy it.....

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[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Straight to consumer prison for depriving shareholders of their profits!

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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago

criminal scum

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[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 99 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My “smart” tvs all get a firewall rule to ban their MAC address from the outside world

[–] voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 188 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

The problem is researchers found out that lg tvs will scan available ssids and connect to any network available to deliver its payload back to LG, without your knowledge or consent

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 76 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] brambc@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Sanity has left us all since, erm, about 2001? Might be off with that estimate, but definitely before 2007!

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Mind pointing to that researcher's findings?

[–] ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Gamers' Nexus speculated on the ability to connect to the other SSIDs if memory serves, or did that ever get proven?

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 weeks ago

Not proven, but obviously that's possible for any device with Wi-Fi, and it has happened with many other "smart" devices before

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[–] SillyDude@lemmy.zip 64 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm a hardware guy. So I think: how can they scream if they have no mouth? Mr. Anderson?

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

This is Plan B when you already have an LG product.

Plan A is to not buy LG anything, ever.

PS: Just out of curiosity and based on other people pointing out here and in another post of mine how hard is to get a non-smart TV, I looked around and here is the largest non-smart consumer TV I could find (which is 1080p and 40" from what looks like a Spanish manufacturer, for €209 with VAT), here is a non-smart 65" 4K Samsung hospitality display ($1023 in the US) and here is what looks like the same spec consumer TV from Samsung ($379.99 in the US).

So, sorry, it is in fact possible to not just avoid LG products (which itself would be easy, just buy any other brand out there) but even smart TVs altogether, just either pay more (over 2x as more judging by that Samsung TV) or settle for smaller 1080p TVs from smaller TV makers.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They all do this. Why do you think displays are so cheap? The business plan is not the display, it's the data.

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[–] zorblitz@programming.dev 13 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Every smart TV brand is doing this. There is no escape

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[–] Jinarched@lemmy.ca 55 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I just can't imagine a jury trial where the TV I bought, have the receipt and possession of, has had its "rights" violated.

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[–] drdalek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 weeks ago

Lobotimize your smart TVs!

I use my old PS4 to connect to my local media server all behind a pi hole

[–] seathru@quokk.au 38 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

BRB, going to whisper sweet nothings to my dumb Sceptre.

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[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

does it have bluetooth? once I read about those trying to connect to your neighbors appliances through bluetooth and use their networks

[–] Trebuchet@europe.pub 21 points 2 weeks ago

Jesus Christ, that's horrific.

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[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Not sure about the older LG models, but in the newer ones, the wifi and bluetooth or on the same board. Cutting off the module means the remote stops working.

Personally, I've isolated and blocked the network, factory reset the TV, and set it up to power off when not in use. It only gets content from an ancient AppleTV box.

I paid and own the glass. They can go screw themselves.

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[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Mine is blocked at the router. It has LAN access just in case it can scan for networks and so I can control it via any APIs with home assistant is I need, but no traffic from it can leave my home network, it gets dropped at the router. It’s been that way for years, I didn’t trust TV manufacturers long before this debacle.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 13 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

They are constantly scanning for any open networks to connect to aswell, so it could offload your data without even passing through your home connection. Unfortunately, the only ways to stop it is to remove the chip or scrap the TV.

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[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Wonder if my trusty LG TV from 2014 is up to no good. They didn't offer any operating system updates for about 10 years now. And I hope the old spy servers from 12 years ago are decommissioned by now?!

[–] SillyDude@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Idk. But my TV doesn't need a WiFi module. It now uses less electricity and is more secure. Took me 10 minutes, just pop it open, unplug the module, close it back up, and its dumb forever.

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