I knew a guy years back that would pop open any device with an internet or GPS connection and physically disable it. He was telling us about it at work one day. Most of our coworkers told him it was paranoid overkill. I bet that dude is laughing his ass off right now.
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Me being paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after me.
Nope. It's not paranoia if they're really out to get you.
Its only paranoia if theyre not out to get you. Otherwise its sparkling anxiety
A friend of mine's household got a smart tv with speech commands. They didn't really understand why I didn't like. The kicker? They're also somewhat paranoid about government and corporate overreach, but not to the extent that they'll do anything.
The other day I saw an old comedy and the "crazy" guy was saying that he doesn't use cellphones (which were new at the time) because the CIA can listen to it.
How dare you slightly modify a thing you own!
Psssshhhh!!!! Get a load of THIS guy! Thinking he owns something just because he pays his own money to buy it.....
Straight to consumer prison for depriving shareholders of their profits!
criminal scum
My “smart” tvs all get a firewall rule to ban their MAC address from the outside world
The problem is researchers found out that lg tvs will scan available ssids and connect to any network available to deliver its payload back to LG, without your knowledge or consent
Insane
Sanity has left us all since, erm, about 2001? Might be off with that estimate, but definitely before 2007!
Mind pointing to that researcher's findings?
At 1:01:16 for the network stuff
Gamers' Nexus speculated on the ability to connect to the other SSIDs if memory serves, or did that ever get proven?
Not proven, but obviously that's possible for any device with Wi-Fi, and it has happened with many other "smart" devices before
I'm a hardware guy. So I think: how can they scream if they have no mouth? Mr. Anderson?
This is Plan B when you already have an LG product.
Plan A is to not buy LG anything, ever.
PS: Just out of curiosity and based on other people pointing out here and in another post of mine how hard is to get a non-smart TV, I looked around and here is the largest non-smart consumer TV I could find (which is 1080p and 40" from what looks like a Spanish manufacturer, for €209 with VAT), here is a non-smart 65" 4K Samsung hospitality display ($1023 in the US) and here is what looks like the same spec consumer TV from Samsung ($379.99 in the US).
So, sorry, it is in fact possible to not just avoid LG products (which itself would be easy, just buy any other brand out there) but even smart TVs altogether, just either pay more (over 2x as more judging by that Samsung TV) or settle for smaller 1080p TVs from smaller TV makers.
They all do this. Why do you think displays are so cheap? The business plan is not the display, it's the data.
wE oWn ThE gLAsS
I just can't imagine a jury trial where the TV I bought, have the receipt and possession of, has had its "rights" violated.
Cory Doctorow has imagined it for us:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41085118-unauthorized-bread
Lobotimize your smart TVs!
I use my old PS4 to connect to my local media server all behind a pi hole
does it have bluetooth? once I read about those trying to connect to your neighbors appliances through bluetooth and use their networks
Jesus Christ, that's horrific.
Not sure about the older LG models, but in the newer ones, the wifi and bluetooth or on the same board. Cutting off the module means the remote stops working.
Personally, I've isolated and blocked the network, factory reset the TV, and set it up to power off when not in use. It only gets content from an ancient AppleTV box.
I paid and own the glass. They can go screw themselves.
Mine is blocked at the router. It has LAN access just in case it can scan for networks and so I can control it via any APIs with home assistant is I need, but no traffic from it can leave my home network, it gets dropped at the router. It’s been that way for years, I didn’t trust TV manufacturers long before this debacle.
They are constantly scanning for any open networks to connect to aswell, so it could offload your data without even passing through your home connection. Unfortunately, the only ways to stop it is to remove the chip or scrap the TV.
Wonder if my trusty LG TV from 2014 is up to no good. They didn't offer any operating system updates for about 10 years now. And I hope the old spy servers from 12 years ago are decommissioned by now?!
Idk. But my TV doesn't need a WiFi module. It now uses less electricity and is more secure. Took me 10 minutes, just pop it open, unplug the module, close it back up, and its dumb forever.
