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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 123 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The hamburger menu, the account picker and the huge share pill, they all look exactly like that!
Congrats OP this meme actually annoyed me 😭

[–] Buckshot@programming.dev 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yesterday describing how to do a thing to my wife over the phone "The menu button" "There is no menu button" "It's a hamburger icon" "What?" "3 lines" "How is that a menu?"

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I often help my parents use their phones.
It is so hard when every app they use has its own garbage bespoke design language and you get such pearls as:

  • Buttons and tabs can be any combination of Colored Square, White Square with Outline or Grey Text on White Background (and they switch every screen!)
  • Modals without a scroll bar so you can't tell there's a "Confirm" button at the bottom
  • Awfully confusing share dialogs before the Native system share sheet opens
  • Inconsistent iconography
  • Overflow menus hidden behind 3 dots, 3 lines or neither

I feel like it's almost second nature for tech savy people to wade thru this crap but for your average granny this shit is practically unparseable.

[–] hyphen0175@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’m working on a mobile app, this commentary is very helpful to me.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you want to help the grannies of the world, grab an older budget device with a not so big screen resolution and crank the device scale / text size super high.
Man, you would not believe what havoc that causes on most apps.

I know responsive design is hard but damn...

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[–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 9 points 1 week ago

And then we have insanity like Instagram, where the logo opens a separate area

How the hell does the logo ever load anything but the home screen?

[–] Buckshot@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Back during covid we sent my wife's grandparents a smart phone so they could video call. They only had a dumb brick phone.

I forget what model but it was one specifically aimed at easy of use for seniors. We had it delivered so I could set it up. Then delivered it to them ready to go.

It was impossible. Even just answering a call being touch and hold the green circle then slide it 2cm in any direction and release took nearly an hour.

My wife does social care now and a client yesterday had managed to enable audio description on his firestick. This is what i was explaining. Hold back and menu on the remote to turn it on/off. He'd probably done it by accident and now his TV is explaining everything on screen after every button press and he has no clue where to even begin to turn it off. It's utterly incomprehensible. I'm sure they thought it was a good idea to have a way to turn it on that doesn't need you to see the screen.

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We've got my 95 old grandma https://enna.care/ and she can use it. Instead of having to use the touch interface it works by placing cards on to an NFC reader.

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[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago
[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 87 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Yet both should learn from each other.

The FOSS world needs more UX/UI specialists.

[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 42 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Donate to your favorite project.

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[–] ThoGot@feddit.org 28 points 1 week ago

The FOSS world needs more UX/UI specialists.

Or even just hobbyists…

[–] grandel@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago

Personally I think a lot of FOSS maintainers are burning out. If you maintain a remotely popular project you basically have a second unpaid job.

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[–] mmmm@sopuli.xyz 57 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

To be fair the left part also once was "Software, by corporation" (i.e. Photoshop CS and prior)

[–] helix@feddit.org 24 points 1 week ago

That's inevitable enshittification.

[–] ComradePedro@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

Yeah, they needed to capture a user base first and only then start enshittifying. This is what they always do - in software, hardware and other products & services

[–] digdilem@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

"Make the best software we can" vs "Make the most money we can"

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It kills me that fucking everything is a fucking website these days, even "desktop" applications.

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[–] Phantom_Feline17@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Also why the fuck do they need basically my entire identity just so i can write words on a document?

[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Might be wrong speak, or a new idea they can steal!

[–] Phantom_Feline17@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

Or to train their shitty ai models?

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[–] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

AutoCAD installing three million micro services just to get their shit pirated anyways.

[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

FreeCAD works great these days.

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[–] aim4harmony@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

So true. I don't miss the "subscribe to be able to write a page of text" lifestyle.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

AI button pop up should cover about %70 of the screen

[–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

See, you're thinking like a user. You gotta think like a CEO tho. There's no AI button popup, the AI features are automatically activated when you use the tools. You gotta go into the settings and explicitly disable automatic AI actions. And only THEN do you get the AI popup to pwease use the AI features.

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[–] Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I've been seeing more and more ~~open source~~ disclosed source software that fits the category on the right...

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We tend to forget that the design on the left was the corporate ux language for a long time. Open source is just slower to fall for the trends, but they fall eventually.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

This is about more than design. The right is pretty much just what flavor of the week looks like in CSS. This is about web devs infecting desktop software

[–] Courantdair@jlai.lu 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But the icons are so much prettier on the right!

/s

[–] bonesawmcl@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

And would you look at all that beautiful whitespace!

[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

how it feels going from using a 2003 software for work to a newer version

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fuck this is quintessential enshittificaction of modern interface

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[–] magnue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It has gone the same way as physical goods. My parents still have appliances (food mixers things like that) that still work and they bought them in the 1980s. Good luck getting anything to last that long these days.

[–] the_strange@feddit.org 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm sorry to say this, but this is survivorship bias. We produced plenty of crap that broke a few months after use even 50 years ago, it's just that you don't notice the crap because it was thrown away after it broke and all you see now is the stuff that surprisingly made it for decades. That's not to say that enshittification and planned obsolescence is not a thing, it's just not as extreme and "we used to build things that lasted" as people would like to believe.

[–] vas@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It is true that merely from the observation of old things, you cannot conclude that all things lasted long.

But as a matter of fact, from different observations by many people and areas, mid- to high- end stuff really lasted much, much longer. It was as an average rule more simple, less compact, and it lasted and still lasts really long without degradation.

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[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago
[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't forget the popup as soon as you open the app for a "Limited Time Lightning Deal" of 25% off when you subscribe for 3 years with a price lock guarantee.

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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It depends on several things which is preferable, at the end it's depends on the intentions and ethics of the author respect the user, on the other hand questionable in case of products (often also FOSS) from big corps where ethics respect the user are too often secundary. To say "OpenSource is always good and Proprietary crap" is a big mistake

A good article

https://nebius.com/blog/posts/open-source-vs-proprietary

[–] halezinflames@lemmus.org 8 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Don't think that open source is immune to this, OnlyOffice has an AI button and many OSS devs are integrating Claude into their dev nowadays. It's getting annoying.

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[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

But but gimp is so unusable πŸ™„

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[–] verifiedbyme@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m a freelancer and unfortunately rely heavily on Microsoft. Haven’t had that stance for long, to be honest, but the past few months have been eye-opening. I’m trying to go more European in the future, and Open Source where viable.

It is a little scary I have to admit. I’m getting old enough to have worked with MS products for decades now, and am so used to them. It’s also a challenge to myself to move away and try new things, as I believe this will be a selling point in the near future in my business.

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[–] ComradePedro@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Apple Incorporated’s software looks more like the one on the left, but with a way more refined user interface… If we want OSS to be as good as possible then we need to compare our favorite software with other good software, not with Microslop. UI design matters and we should discuss it with less of a bias.

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