On-topic, how can I join this effort? Financially, signing, demonstrations. I'm happy to do any and all of the three.
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Ik kan jammer genoeg zo snel geen Nederlandstalig artikel vinden hierover.
I assume you know this, but just in case, this community is officially in both Dutch and English. You're allowed to use either here.
I'm sorry, but you're somewhat inconsistent with yourself.
To my question on why Iran was enriching uranium, you're saying that it was "to use it as a pressure technique on the usa". How is that not adding to the problem? Of course it does. Mind you, I'm not picturing Iran as the bad guys and US or Israel as the good guys. Quite the opposite. But you gotta stay true to the facts.
And when later you say "did not plan to build a weapons". Do you have reputable/verifiable references for that? Was it part of Snowden's leaks or something? And you're saying that it did not plan to build weapons, but then still did it?
I ask you to be real here. You can try to bully me of course. But I'm not protecting the US or Israel here. Both of the respective leaders committed numerous crimes and should be stopped. This is important. But it is also true, even if it's less important, that the control over Iranian citizens is in the hands of IRGC and this is bad for everyone. Not that Trump can be a solution to that, but it's hurting. And the "pressure technique" of having nuclear weapons development is also hurting. I, personally, want neither Israel nor Iran to have nuclear weapons - not even remotely.
I'm confused now, because I know you from other posts and I respect your knowledge and depth of thought/comments.
To comment on minor things before answering fully: no, I have not read about WMD. I'll do that now I guess. "bringing freedom" is definitely a non-valid argument indeed, especially if it comes from the US. I do agree with you that the Israel (or the US) have no "moral highground" even if there could be one - especially them actually.
My comment was mostly about building specifically nuclear bombs. I haven't made claims if it's close to completion or not - just that they are doing it. I'll research what you wrote before answering fully.
Why is Iranian's military side, IRGC, enriching uranium then? You're not gonna deny that are you?
EDIT: Just in case I wanna clarify. I find the egocentric asshole (Trump) as stupid as you probably do. His actions were unplanned, and he only ever pursues his own benefit, and not anyone else's. Whatever he says should be taken with literally 0 weight if one is looking for the truth. But I insist that you cannot wave away that Iran does have a nuclear program. I wish adults would handle the problem, not Trump, but the problem does exist.
EDIT: I could be in the wrong, I need to think/evaluate. In any case, I do acknowledge that e.g. Netanyahu is a war criminal, and that Trump is a walking disaster and incompetence. However, I'm still not in the clear with regards to nuclear program in Iran. There's definitely evidence of the production of enriched uranium. That, in my opinion, and even with "my" current 19 downvotes, is still not something to be waved away. The decision to create and have enriched uranium adds to the problem.
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Well Iran is building nuclear bombs. And its 90 or so million of people are under a dictatorship (though Trump only makes it worse). It's not honest to wave these factors away.
The Netherlands is not comparable to Australia. ... Using them as an example makes no sense
I disagree. I've lived in countries with almost as low population density as Australia, and in the Netherlands of course, and the biggest incompatibility there is between lands is people's assumptions. You can absolutely transfer knowledge and best practices. Yes, lots of land can make "building out" cheaper in the initial stages. But if you notice that costs are rising and comfort goes down comparing to regions of the world that invested heavily in trains (or rarely, cycling infra), you know that cars are not the only option. Like, not throw cars out of the window. But add alternatives, removing pressure from fuel and car lanes. Yes, it works. Yes, it works outside of the Netherlands, too.
EDIT: by the way, I've visited Australia for a short while, too. I'm speaking from personal pain points and moments of positive amazement here.
Hey, I just want to briefly update on that, since you've spent your time writing a response.
In the end, I've decided I feel that they're in the wrong (ethically and legally). I've declined the payment, they've insisted I should pay. I've continued denying the payment and explained that I'm ready to go to court with that. The back and forth lasted for a few weeks (~3), in the end they've already sent me an email that my case will go to debt collection services. I've declined and explained my point of view yet again, explaining that I'm ready to go to the court with that. At this point, they've withdrawn their request and sent me an email that this invoice has been cancelled.
So... that's how it ended. :shrug:
Thanks again for your response! It helped me think about what is right and what is not adhering to the law in the country, and how to proceed.
I was trying to understand if I need to read the post in detail, but your comment helped me, thank you.
I will most certainly not read stuff from a person who judges people by their native language.
By the way, you really faithfully downvoted all my neighbouring comments - even those where I share a picture of the Netherlands. That's quite the dedication. I guess your car mobility is really important for you? Please keep in mind that I'm not advocating to take this away from you. Even in the city where I live right now, cars are the dominant transport. It's just that those drivers are also happy when their kids return from school safely, by themselves. If that's not "freedom" akin the one mentioned in your nickname, then what is?
When I go to visit one of my good mates
By all means, please do use the car when you go to your good mates! As I'm saying in the other comment below as well, I'm not asking you not to. I'm only saying it would be to your benefit if some part of the traffic would be served by trains or even bike lanes, too. Like, your trip would get faster because of that. Your trip on the car to your friends.
Thank you! I've subscribed (and donated) to the latter already in the morning, and I'll take a deeper look at the first one too.