“AI gives wealth access to skill while denying skill access to wealth.”
Work Reform
A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.
Our Philosophies:
- All workers must be paid a living wage for their labor.
- Income inequality is the main cause of lower living standards.
- Workers must join together and fight back for what is rightfully theirs.
- We must not be divided and conquered. Workers gain the most when they focus on unifying issues.
Our Goals
- Higher wages for underpaid workers.
- Better worker representation, including but not limited to unions.
- Better and fewer working hours.
- Stimulating a massive wave of worker organizing in the United States and beyond.
- Organizing and supporting political causes and campaigns that put workers first.
this is wishful thinking on wealth’s part
when they have no actual skills outside of gaslighting they end up seeing this as the same they see an expert. they can't validate either way correctness and correctness doesn't really matter to them as long as they make money.
exactly
and they might make money for a while, but it won’t last
makes sense. (although I feel like it's more of a husk of almost-skill, given how trash AI is.) damn AI...
The core promise of AI is "You'll be able to fire all your workers!"
You just aren't the target audience for the message.
It's a stupid promise.
Some jobs will be eliminated by AI, new technology wipes out jobs all the time. We needed people to manually connect wires to connect phone calls, and we automated that away.
I'm excited that the tedious technical parts of animation are getting automated, this gives the artists more time to work on the art. We use computer generated graphics all the time, we use digital production workflows, we don't manually paint frames anymore, unless we explicitly choose to for stylistic reasons.
If the animation isn't just right, the artist can tweak it. The art isn't lost because the artist used a modern tool. It's the soulless garbage used by money hungry gouls that will be entirely generated from a couple text prompts, and the result will show it.
There's a huge difference between implementing a new tool into your workflows to cut down animation hours and days to minutes, and delegating the whole artistic production process to the tool.
As an animator? If I can automate some of the extremely tedious in-betweening for things like ruffles on elaborately over-designed magical girl costumes, or background fire, that would be great. But let me breathe life and soul into these characters with my own two hands.
Yeah it's the Jack Welch mentality where they fire a bunch of people to make line go up.
So offer a technology that promises to fire most of the workforce and investors throw money at it thinking "If we put everyone out of a job then line will go to the moon!"
Investors may not be all that smart.
I think this is just another side of the temporarily embarrassed-millionaire, anti-worker, techno-fascist-narcissist, pseudo-libertarian, culture-war propaganda that capitalism has been waging since the 1970's.
All indoctrinated chudds show the exact same distain for all workers, in all scenarios... unless it personally affects them... at which point it's the worst thing in the world. Half of them are so brainwashed they continue bootlicking the oligarchs that fire them; that are directly destroying their lives, families, and communities.
It's some poor slob with $15k on Nvidia stock praying they get rich without any skill for their shilling.
That's the whole point of the stock market. To make us feel like equals, like we can join their team.
Resentment and weak egos, I assume.
"I'm a great person" -> "I can't draw good" -> "they can draw good" -> "am I not so great??" -> "unacceptable!!!" -> "they suck!"
And reason left the room years ago:
- what is the possibility of me being capable of greatness in all things and aspects at the same time?
- very close to zero, if possible for human at all
- oh well
But that never occurs to them
A regular reminder that the AI companies are paying for the majority of the cost of compute, selling tokens way on the cheap.
And they have no idea how to get the production cost down.
This bubble is entirely based on (improbable) futures, and / or the current billionaire agenda:
~ Automating everything possible, so that they can leave the replaced workforce to starve
~ Controlling huge swarms of killer robots
~ Processing surveillance data to root out dissidents and crimethink
For sure this AI bubble is extra fucky wucky. Like, I wish I had the capital (I'm a proletariat sooo I don't) to burn on shorting some of these companies. Not that I really know how to do it properly and it's volatile and unless you wanna end up owing lots of money you can't cover you have to start with a lot since you're making very hard to foresee bets and some will not pan out.
Like, at some point this bubble will explode, nothing is really propping it up. There's not enough actual demand, the artificial demand there is won't stay forever and even the small amount of real demand isn't going to be there when companies start paying the actual cost for these services instead of it being subsidized. Almost all the money being poured into this "AI" (ie: the fancied up LLMs who's capabilities the tech bros keep on lying about) is going in a circle - it's actually madness.
It's absolutely a house of cards, but betting on a collective realization that's going to implode a big part of our economy is hard because people desperately want to believe the illusion. Sooner or later reality will come knocking and the harsh truth will come to be.
I do think it's going to make 2008 look like a joke but I guess we're going to have to crash the stock market like it's 1929 before our government decides to (once again) reign in Wall Street and this bullshit. It's like we all lost our collective minds or something, as if there wasn't a reason for the glass-steagull act to exist. Hell look at what's happening with our food supply as we've been gutting the FDA and USDA and EPA inspectors and relaxing regulations and constantly looking the other way when these big agri businesses literally shit up our food.
Jealousy and envy in full display. They wish they had that kind of talent.
Some people can’t cope with that other people have talents
Talent = affinity + trained skill + effort
Usually.
They believe they're better than everyone else because they're wealthy. But if someone can do things they can't, that ego doesn't like it much. Removing that uncomfortable feeling in a high priority for the rich.
it's always funny reading posts by "AI advocates" like this because none of them actually work for any AI companies. they're just linkedin fanboys of it. wannabe middle managers.
They’re in for a rude awakening when the price gets jacked up to the point none of them can afford it.
The irony, of course, being that middle management is a category of job much better suited to being replaced by AI than actual creative productivity is
Chuds love AI because they think every artist is a blue-haired liberal. The thought of those liberals losing their jobs brings great joy to the chud.
Chuds vote time and again against their own interests. They do so to "own the libs," personal consequences be damned. As long as a liberal is perceived as hurt, the chud will support AI.
There was a leopardsatemyface town where the touring politician made fun of poor people because they couldn't buy food and the poor conservative town LAUGHED at themselves and then lost a hospital and supermarket.
Truly the broken cycle meme
I'm a 25yr software engineer. I use the latest claude everyday. It's garbage, slings slop 95% of the time, and requires non stop correction in nearly everything it does.
I genuinely don’t know how vibe coders manage to get anything to actually work.
I suspect the ones who are, were already programmers.
I've had some success taking our main windows app and converting it to a server with a Flutter front end.
Mostly stuff that I already knew how to do but couldn't be arsed because it's a lot of work to keep it all in sync. Break it down into actual tasks and Santa Claude stands half a chance. I've never written a line of Dart.
I'm also absolutely certain there's a limit to how far this approach will get me. The old the first half of the work takes 90% of the time. The second half also takes 90% of the time.
*correction by someone qualified to actually know shit about the matter.
This is where things will get interesting in the near future.
They seem to hate anyone who does anything that requires an education, and love AI making those people homeless and poor and letting any idiot replicate what they did even badly, because they've felt they were looked down on for not having any education.
No AI could ever match the creative genius of Korean animation studio.

Art just requires practice, which is even more rudimentary than education.
Prompt engineering and sifting through slop can appear like practice to anyone who doesn't. This, I find, is the source of the delusion and hate.
Not many people are figuring out things like color theory or perspective from practice alone.
Which is why there's a clear progression for art getting significantly better over the centuries. It's not because artists became more talented, it's because instruction was available.
And the most annoying part is, even Nvidia isn't even saying it'll do that.
All of the AI based character animation stuff has been about getting characters to move realistically in dynamic cases that your artists couldn't and weren't even trying to account for.
People have been using machine learning for this for a long time. It's a great advancement, but the ability to make a character crab walk over a bridge doesn't help you know what they should be doing, what it looks like, that it's conveying things correctly, or the actual hard parts of character animation.
They hate them cuz they ain't them.
So much envy for our creativity. Do the work like the rest of us. I started getting trained at age 5 in creativity. I honed that training through more and more use during my life. I didn't just wake up one morning seeing outside and around the box.
They think it's just 100% born in us when that's only a portion.
Where are all the promised benefits they all said would happen to the common person?
Guess they gave up on that and now it’s “Fuck you, fuck your jobs, sucks to be you, losers!”
maybe they don't fully understand the role that artists play in rendering your daily life.
do you feel unease and sadness every single time you pass a fast food restaurant that looks the same as the others? i sure do.
the people who designed the new ones are artists but they work for satan and have no morals. they may as well be AI.
do you ever watch commercials on your streaming box and become quickly annoyed but then take in a commerical from the 80s and vibe to it? maybe not, but if you did, you'd notice the juicy fruity jingle was catchy as fuck and the aesthetics of the commercial were alluring. the modern ones? not so much. artists create all that.
the person in the tweet is too dim to notice these things. maybe they'll never notice it. maybe they do notice it and they don't care because they're disgusting examples of humanity....and embodiments of biblical evil.
As a former graphic department manager, artists can be difficult to work with... for non-artists.
I got to see how frustrated the boss/owner got dealing with us. We're not a neat, blackbox they can shove instructions into and get out a perfectly formed product on the first round--which is what they think AI will give them soon. If they think AI will be better at dealing with client demands, I'll be happy to watch them fail with that.
Honestly, I don’t even think it’s an artist vs non-artist thing.
It’s a communication thing, and specifically it hinges on leading with curiosity, trusting the people, and clearly defining expectations (or, failing that, setting boundaries).
I work in a different role now, but a large part of what I do is similar: interfacing between people of differing skill sets, expectations, and needs.
I’ve found that if I don’t get in front of people, they tend to assume the other party is hard to work with or maybe even dumb, rather than merely approaching from their own frame of reference. It gets easier once people realize that no one is an idiot, and we’re all just trying to check different boxes, often without a clear idea of the others considerations.
Except for that one colleague. Woof. Do they got blackmail on leadership or something? How do they manage to even feed themselves every day?
I agree with you. Artists aren't a neat, blackbox they can shove instructions into and get out a perfectly formed product on the first round, but neither is anybody else.
That said, artists aren't the only group of workers they hope to replace with AI.
These fucks get put up against the wall alongside their techbro oligarch heroes when the time comes.
I mean i am envious of people who have skill and tallent to draw/create pretty things and i really wish I had tallent to do the same. All i can make are things that look like wonky stickpeople and turds. But thats why i would prefer to pay professionals if i was in the business of relying on created art.
Do you do commissions? I’d like an original, signed wonky stickpeople and turds for my office.
You'll need to print it yourself. 
This could be in the Louvre some day.