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Trump has suggested steam catapults every year since 2017, saying digital systems are too ‘complicated’

After nearly a decade of loudly complaining about the fact that modern US aircraft carriers use electromagnetic systems to launch fighter jets instead of steam-powered catapults, Donald Trump has directed the Pentagon to redesign a new aircraft carrier to replace the modern system with the old-fashioned catapults he prefers.

Trump signed a national security memorandum on Thursday directing the defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, and the acting navy secretary, Hung Cao, to make the change he has had his heart set on since at least 2017, when he first described his idea to Time magazine.

The memorandum gives the Pentagon leaders 60 days to come up with “a plan on the required measures to replace the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System and Advanced Weapons Elevators with steam and hydraulic systems for the construction of” the USS Doris Miller, a Ford-class aircraft carrier, which is already two years behind schedule.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Is this because of his obsession with magnets and water?

Can the military not just lie to him and tell them they've done it it's not like he's going to check. Even if he did he wouldn't know what he was looking at because his brain, not something to write home about the best of times, has now turn to cottage cheese.

He'll be directing the military to return to wooden ships and musket next.

[–] Ironrod@sh.itjust.works 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's been over 100 years since the last wooden battalion was sunk! That obviously means they are superior than metal ships

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If he carrys on like this we can reenact the war of independence.

[–] Ironrod@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

Don't drag us into it! We can't govern ourselves atm, bringing back the colonies would be worse for everyone! Just have a civil war like the good old days

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 5 points 15 hours ago

EMALS has been around for over 15 years so naturally trump lost interest

[–] nanometer1625@thelemmy.club 14 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

This is so obviously irrational that I'm surprised that his cabinet hasn't removed him for incompetence just for this. The man is a dotard.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 10 points 22 hours ago

His cabinet wouldn't have their cushy jobs if it wasn't for that dotard.

They're not gonna kill the goose that lays their golden eggs.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The inevitable lunacy of your garden variety dictator. Dictate ALL the things, my whims are more important than reality.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I can't wait until trump orders the aircraft carrier to be made capable of dive-bombing.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 5 points 13 hours ago

"Gold is the best material, all new vessels will be made out of solid gold."

"But gold is incredibly weak, malleable, heavy, expensive..."

"GOOOLLLDDD!"

[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

Hear me out, we make it a Zeppelin and fill it with half water.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because it’s electric?

Nevermind the electronic valves and electronic systems that control the steam, it just can’t be electric where it counts. This is the stupidest president ever.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

Because it’s electric?

No, because it has magnets.

Trump is notoriously afraid of magnets. It upsets him that they would put a magnet on something that's supposed to float on the sea, and he worries about them sinking with the magnets still on them. I read through one of his rants on the topic, verbatim. The guy is stupid. Very stupid indeed. And senile.

[–] zemo@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The man really does not understand that electricity is the purest and highest form of energy there is.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 15 hours ago

Basic physics concepts are quite considerably beyond him. Understanding that fire is hot just about maxes out his mental capacity.

Remember when we used to laugh at George Bush, he looks like an intellectual juggernaut next to trump.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

The world will yield to US might when these are installed.

Trump is putting out Aladeen vibes...

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I really hate how Americans are screwing the world via Trump but at least he is also screwing Americans. Not quite balance but at least Americans should be feeling some of the pain that they insist on inflicting on the rest of the world.

[–] gogonan@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Bro most of America lives paycheck to paycheck under an inhumane capitalistic system designed to make us desperate, afraid, and without a sense of community. We are dependent upon employment to get whatever overpriced and impersonal healthcare we are allowed by our employer-provided insurance. We have no savings. We are guaranteed no time off, and we can be fired in most places at any time for any reason. Our educational infrastructure has been systematically degraded over the past few decades, as have all our consumer protections and what few tools we’ve ever had to fight these oppressive conditions. Our kids get sent to war because joining the military is about the only method the poor and undereducated have of getting a chance of going to college or securing a mortgage. The people fucking you and the rest of the world aren’t Americans, they’re our oligarchs.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

at least he is also screwing Americans

It's almost as if he's really a tool of Putin and the Saudis and doesn't give two fucks about America.

Edit: I can't believe I forgot about Israel.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can only imagine he really cares about this because he's invested in the company that makes the steam-powered systems.

[–] Archimedes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago

That's probably all there is to it.

On the bright side, the new carriers will probably get about a mile from shore before their hulls crack and they sink.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Have they finished turning the California water faucet 37 degrees towards Canada yet? Or reopening Alcatraz? How many of these crackhead ideas go anywhere?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 15 hours ago

Well his latest scheme appears to be to give Greenland a bunch of expensive oil drilling equipment. He genuinely seems to believe that if they just start drilling for oil no one's going to stop them.

I've met flat earthers with better critical thinking skills than this idiot.

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

These sound a little more like "friend's stoner older brother that lives in his buddy's garage" ideas to me!

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[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (5 children)

This idiot thinks he is an expert on everything. More people need to tell the baby NO.

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[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 28 points 1 day ago

Join me in some wild speculation about this aircraft carrier which is already behind schedule:

The ship, named for Messman Second Class Doris Miller, is the first aircraft carrier named for both an enlisted sailor and an African American.[9] The ship will be the second to honor Miller, who received the Navy Cross for his actions during the attack on Pearl Harbor; the first ship was USS Miller (FF-1091).[10] It is currently the only Gerald R. Ford-class carrier to be named after a person who was not a former president.

The president's changes will slow things down. Now why would he want to slow that aircraft carrier down?

“The future Trump-class battleship – the USS Defiant – will be the largest, deadliest and most versatile and best-looking warship anywhere on the world’s oceans,” Phelan said...

“The U.S. Navy will lead the design, along with me, because I’m a very aesthetic person,” Trump said.

-- Trump Unveils New Battleship Class

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I can only imagine the hard facepalming going on in the Navy right now.

How many more before this government collapses, as it should? It's truly an emperor-no-clothes situation.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And even with this, the US Navy isn't going back in time anywhere as far or as fast as the US Department Of Health which has already reached the 18th century under a leadership that denies that vaccines work.

[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What we'll probably hear from him next is that he prefers steam gauges over glass cockpits and that all aircraft, civilian or military, must be retrofitted with the former. And biplanes, the Pentagon must start buying and using them. Everybody knows (except for Communists) that two wings are better than one.

[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if it's physically possible to build a supersonic biplane...

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 14 hours ago

I suppose it would be technically possible, the issue would be that the moment you start to turn the aircraft, the air turbulence generated by the upper wing would rip the lower wing off. This is a problem even at lower speeds which is why double decked wing designs stop being made.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I think it's more like "bring back whatever I watched on film between 1955-1990 as that's the last time the world felt familiar". Steam catapults from Top Gun, TriStar jet because triples are best, PanAm airlines because the stewardesses had miniskirts and cleavage. Fuck it, someone call Howard Hughes while we're at it

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[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 144 points 1 day ago (3 children)

He’s got a pool company that can do it?

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[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 114 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Which one of his friends sells steam systems?

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[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (6 children)

This motherfucker has no clue how magnets work.

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This motherfucker has no clue ~~how magnets work.~~

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[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Use the electromagnetic launcher just also add a tube that shoots out a stream of hot steam as it launches a plane so his dumb ass can brag about how he built a steam launcher.

[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

This is a brilliant work-around. It'll save a ton of R&D money and won't take nearly the time and $ that a full retrofit would, all while pacifying the Orange Diaper Baby until the next dumbass idea comes along. How would you like a no-bid contract for the job?

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[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 79 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The issue between the two systems is isolation. In the old C-13 series if one track needed repair, you have to shut steam off to that track. The rest can keep going. In the EMALS there's just the one centralize power architecture, so if a track has to go down, it takes the whole thing down with it.

Few really want to return to steam. It requires a lot of the ship to house special high pressure equipment and requires more maintenance overall to keep it running. Additionally, a lot of the drones designed need the precise control that the EMALS provides to not break apart. But it's hard to point out all the various tooling that has to go on behind the scenes when one track goes down with steam, when the whole effing thing with EMALS has to go down and no launching happens for hours.

And that's ultimately what happens, the metrics that are being used are getting aircraft into the air, not overall downtime or cost to operate. And EMALS is still struggling to hit the numbers it has to hit and likely won't hit them till around 2030. Every time it goes down, every zero aircrafts it gets pulls that metric down hard.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

No they don't, there's still 4 units one per launcher. Most of problems you mention seems to come from energy storage system. Energy is stored in the flywheels, which requires annoying converter, so chinese variant uses giant set of supercapacitors instead which is just a bit heavier and has less problems with communications interference. Also can be split in many parts and fit in any space you have. Mostly benefit of being designed later. Zero surprises if americans figure it's better but institutional inertia keeps them using the old one

[–] wake@quokk.au 63 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But her EMALS

(sorry, I actually enjoyed your contribution though)

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[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (6 children)

You'd think that an electric system should allow for relatively easy isolation – isolating electric circuits from each other with breakers is hardly new technology. Is this lack of isolation a design flaw of EMALS or is there an actual physical reason why it couldn't be designed with independently powerable tracks?

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