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[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 50 points 6 days ago (1 children)

On, because I want information, not art.

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 83 points 6 days ago (8 children)

I don't mind the one without the number, what i do mind is that SOME FUCKING ASSHOLE decided that no number is bettter and forces his FUCKING DUMBASS decision on everyone else.

SO FUCK OFF WIHT YOUR NUMBERLESS SHIT AND TAKE ALL OF FUCKING MATERIAL DESIGN WITH YOU!

Sorry. i have strong feelings about this topic, don't know if you noticed.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (5 children)

My personal rage at the moment is this square time format with the two digit hour over the two digit minute. Obviously designed for a smart watch but Android decided it needs to be on the phones as well. I keep turning it off but every few updates it comes back -- because the designers know better than me what I actually want.

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[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 132 points 6 days ago (40 children)

This is like when cars went from oil pressure and temperature gauges to "idiot" lights. One let's you see trends in situations and be prepared for maintenance, the other tells why your car broke down.

[–] quarkquasar@lemmy.world 66 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oh man, you've solved a problem I've had since childhood, trying to figure out what Stephen King meant when he was writing about "idiot lights".

I always figure he meant the dome light or something.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

😀 yeah it made sense to me because I grew up in the changeover.

But here's the Wiki entry.

The "idiot light" terminology arises from popular frustration with automakers' use of lights for crucial functions which could previously be monitored by gauges, so a troublesome condition could be detected and corrected early. Such early detection of problems with, for example, engine temperature or oil pressure or charging system operation is not possible via an idiot light, which lights only when a fault has already occurred – thus providing no advance warnings or details of the malfunction's extent.

[–] quarkquasar@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

It makes sense, and I think he also (or maybe only) used the term "dope light" which I figured had something to do with drugs.

Linguistics are so interesting.

[–] Tower@lemmy.zip 34 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, my car doesn't have either of those and I was not happy when I realized it.

"A light will come on if there's an issue." 😡

[–] kaotic@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

I added some third party gages to my truck, just connects to the OBD interface.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you have a newer car, it's worse.

Your car can say check engine and turn off a lot of features in your car if you're external thermometer in simply malfunctioning.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Your newer car will also tell you EXACTLY which sensors are showing bad data and whether it's an electrical fault in the sensor's circuit or implausible input, etc. Unfortunately you need a scan tool for it, but depending on the make you might find a decent free or cheap app to use a generic ELM327 or better, STNN1110 based OBD2 tool, that lets you scan all the modules rather than just OBD2 standard stuff.

So rather than playing parts darts or verifying every sensor by multimeter using known resistance ranges or putting up with bad fuel economy and low power... You just scan the thing and it'll tell you.

I've owned cars from the '90s, '00s and '10s (2019 being the latest) and while my cars from '10s didn't have sensor issues, I'll tell you that I'll take the complex and super hated '00s German cars over the early '90s one ANY day of the week. Super easy to diagnose.

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[–] Leviathan@fedinsfw.app 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

On. I don't understand why it always seems to be off by default.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 6 points 5 days ago

Probably some bullshit legacy design choice from steve jobs

[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Low power mode all the time, damn phone doesn't need to be doing fishy stuff in the background anyway.

[–] Mio@feddit.nu 43 points 6 days ago

Number ON. Otherwise I have to guess the number.

[–] AAA@feddit.org 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The only advantage of "number off" is it comes with extra anxiety for free.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

I must know precisely how anxious to be.

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 32 points 6 days ago

Number. If I glance twice just a couple minutes apart, I know there's an unusual drain going on and know to look for problem apps/processes I forgot to disable when done with them.

Also the number just feels like more direct communication to me than a graphic and is easier to make choices with. It's not quite the same thing, but when I look at a clock I don't want to see "5:30ish", I want to know if its 5:28 or later so I can start my end of workday process.

So, number because spectrum.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

number, that icon can be anything from %60 to %90

[–] Gobbel2000@programming.dev 9 points 5 days ago

Number only, get out of here with superfluous symbols. I don't need The Status Bar: Illustrated Edition.

[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Both, although I probably dont need the icon

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[–] bugbear@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Ugh, I don't understand why it usually defaults to no number. Then I have to go and change the setting, show me numbers - I actually want to know how much battery I've got left... I don't understand why would anyone want it off, but to each their own.

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[–] Minemoder@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Chick0nPlayz@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

I had no idea you could turn the number off nor that anyone would want to

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

A lot of people like to do extra work to ignore hard realities.

[–] lonesomeCat@lemmy.ml 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I literally have just the number

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[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

We have the number, it’s very beneficial

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[–] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Without the number on, i keep letting my phone die because i dont realize its on 1% and i should really charge it

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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

Number on and icon completely off.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It depends on what kind of user you are. The ones that charge their phone whenever near a charger don't need a number. The ones who only charge when the phone threatens to shut down absolutely need the number.

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[–] Dojan@pawb.social 11 points 6 days ago (7 children)

I have the number off because the number gets really distracting to me. If I need to know the number I'll pull down the control center or whatever it's called. It's rare that the actual number is required though. You'll know when it's under half, and when it hits 20.

Looking at the bar right now for example I can tell that it's gone past its 80% charging limit for whatever reason.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Nunber gang. That said it doesn't change a lot for me. If I had a bar and it looked half full I'd be charging same as if the nunber read 55%

[–] Knossos@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

That's Numberwang

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

I'd rather have the percentage on and with slightly larger digits, because at more than a feet away from the phone screen hard to tell how much battery charge is left without the percentage.

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