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[–] GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone 120 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They will notice, they will appreciate it, and they will reward you with even more work.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

Two kinds of employees. The irreplaceable widgets in the soulless machine of industry and the hot-swappable cogs.

Curiously, it's the irreplaceable widgets that get paid the worst, because the company has a vested interest in keeping these costs minimized long term. The real money is as an expendable, as the jobs are created when the industry is growing and flush with cash to blow on empty suit executives and PowerPoint brain consultants. And when the party is over, they're the ones with all the networking connections to jump ship soonest. Meanwhile, the irreplaceable widgets are the ones wedged into a sinking ship.

If you work hard and never use any sick days, you'll be secure in your position at Lehman Brothers or Silicon Valley Bank as the last guy left to turn the lights out when the business fails. If you're at Deloitte or Capspire or PWC, you're already on to the next host organism long before your old firm even knows it's got a terminal case of rot.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly. So many jobs in my early 20s where I'd work my ass off, get thrown into a manager position, gain substantially more responsibilities, and then end up making less money than half the staff a year later.

[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How long were your early 20s?

[–] OS2Warp@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Probably like 10-12 years

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, I appreciate when my grocery store has an awesome sale on the products I wanted to buy, but that doesn't mean I'm going to pay them more or anything. To your company, you're just a product.

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[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Imagine having a set amount of days you're allowed to be sick and are expected not to use them when you actually are sick.

The US is not failing. It has always been fucked up.

You make my current government look reasonable even when it's making using healthcare as much of an annoyance and throwing as many obstacles in your way as possible.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 week ago

You make my current government look reasonable

Do you understand how little that narrows it down?

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I remember once I had an interview and they told me the number of sick days and I was so confused lol. How could you possibly determine the number of times I will be sick before it happens.

If I'm sick I'm not coming I don't care what number you wrote down lol

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My favorite interview experience was at a company that listed the expected salary on the job posting. Then when the question of my salary came up I told them I was happy with what they said they offered in the ad. It was in line with other ads for similar positions. That was not the right answer. They said that if I was actually passionate about the company that I would have made a low offer to save the department money. I remarked that I wasn't an employee yet so the department and companies wellbeing wasn't one of my priorities. I didn't get the job, although I wasn't upset I didn't.

[–] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Jesus fckn Christ, what a shithole company. Massive bullet dodged there.

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're allowed to be sick more days, they just won't pay you for it.

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have a set amount of sick days too unfortunately.

180 days in a year. After that the government says tough luck, work or starve.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Won't happen here either. If you are sick, your employer has to pay your regular salary for six weeks. After that, your health insurance pays Krankengeld (usually 70% of your gross salary) for up to 72 more weeks. After that, unemployment insurance covers you.

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[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Half the year in sick days? Is this satire?

Edit: Maybe I missed a really obvious point somewhere lol.

Edit: sobstory lolI'm part time, but if I don't miss any hours at all the entire year, I "earn" 19 hours of "vacation time" / PTO. There is no "sick time". 😂 Basically a week off per year if I blew it all at once and didn't want to make up the hours somewhere else. The pro strat is just "don't get sick" I guess /s.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Wow, almost 2.5 whole work days a year?!?! Slow your roll there Rockefeller /s

[–] parricc@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

The US is failing, though. The entire world has always been fucked up. Every place has its problems. There was a point of divergence between the US and countries that have things better off where the US stopped improving, though. This moment happened after FDR died in 1945. With his death, the movement to universal healthcare died. Then, just two years later, the Taft–Hartley Act passed and gutted the power of unions. That same year, McCarthyism became a thing. And after that, it just took a while for the momentum to die and for everything gained to be lost. If we want to look at the moment of failure for the US, it happened long before Trump, Bush, Reagan, and Nixon. Henry Wallace was the vice president of FDR from 1941-1945. Then, the party decided to replace him with a conservative, Harry Truman. This decision is ultimately what screwed the US. Had FDR refused to replace Henry Wallace, history would have taken a very different path.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Currently at the office on a Monday morning after they fired they guy above me a few months back and are now expecting me to not only do my job but his job as well. They raised my pay by $1 an hour, by the way. Jokes on them because I'm putting in exactly as much effort as one should while expected to do two peoples jobs for low pay and it's not that much work at all.

[–] YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm in a similar situation, my entire team of 6 was laid off except for me. Now I'm on a team of 3 with an AI and expect to do more now than before. I've told them numerous times the AI has only slowed us down due to the numerous mistakes it makes but they don't like hearing things that make them question their "brilliant" decision making abilities.

I've decided to in a way to quiet quit and literally let the AI do everything like they wanted. I know its making tons of mistakes but I simply don't care anymore. Things will go to shit and deadlines will be missed I'll blame the AI and tell them I was told numerous times its great and to use it. I'll probably still get fired but then they will lose the last person who understands all of the projects my team had worked on for years. I'll be fine but I can't say the same about them.

[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

This is how you're supposed to respond to awful management directives. Follow it to the T and when it fails tell them why.

If you 'do the right thing' and create work-arounds and hidden fixes to problems management created, they will think their decisions were absolutely justified and were the correct course of action. They'll pat themselves on the back, give you an attaboy, and move into the next disaster with misplaced confidence, all without ever seeing all the cracks in their plan that you silently filled as you carried the weight on your back.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Unfortunately they DO notice when you actually take sick days. Avoiding taking sick days isn't so much about thinking you'll get rewarded as it is about trying not to get punished.

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[–] furzegulo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago

Last week I took three days of sick leave while not being sick and enjoyed every single second of it🥳

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fizbo the clown is no fool, I'll have you know.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago

Pagliacci the clown goes to the doctor. He says he's depressed, that life seems harsh and cruel in a lonely threatening world. The doctor tells him that the treatment is simple, and that they should go to the monster truck rally this sunday sunday sundaay. So they do and have a great time, and it's pretty good first date

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We're having a major go-live this month. Management wanted someone to visit on the third (when we observe the holiday). I volunteered because: I'm close, my kids are all grown, and I'm technically part of the management team.

While I was there, there was an issue. I dutifully reached out to one of the people managing some processes to see if her processes could be causing the issue. She didn't reply.

I told one of the managers on site that day that I was proud of her for ignoring me, that she was doing exactly what I told her she should do, and I'd be upset if she had responded.

It turns out she never got the message until today. I told her if she had actually replied I would have yelled at her for reading work messages on the holiday.

It's a weird kind of psychosis. I had to ask her, but I was happier not getting the response than I would have been if she had replied.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this a linkedin shaped joke? If not, why the hell reach out if you're so adamant against her actually replying? If a collegue of mine has time off, no chance in hell I'll actually call or write them.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Primarily because if I didn't reach out, my manager would have. Except he wouldn't have stopped with a teams chat message. He would have started calling her cell phone, personal phone, etc.

When I said I'd reach out to her, I circumvented that. It gave us time for him to move onto the next thing.

He's getting better, but when he panics he falls back into bad behavior.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Gen-X here. I and many of my contemporaries learned that lesson by watching our parents. Hence the nonconformist "slacker" start and the high rate of job hopping in the 90's and 2Ks. Somewhere along the way (looking at you 2008), that changed.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh they'll notice alright... Then take advantage of you by giving you more tasks but not more compensation while they appreciate you being such a rube they can control.

[–] PurpleHawkeye619@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I gotta be honest.

My employer did notice company wide no one was using sick days and "converted" them into "mental health days" (literally changed nothing but the name).and suddenly everyone is taking them left right and center.

Apparently labeling matters.

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[–] homes@piefed.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My name is Eric Stonestreet

I used to be a clown

I’m going to spend nearly a decade playing one of the most amazing gay guys ever on a highly public and beloved TV show, and I’m gonna make millions of dollars doing it

Life makes clowns of us all. Sometimes, that’s the best thing that can happen to you.

[–] makeshift0546@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago

I'm taking my sick days, but I also work hard and I've been rewarded pretty well for it.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (7 children)

All I hear these days is either:

Never give the company anything because they'll never give anything to you

or

Work hard and you'll be noticed and climb the ladder.

Neither is inherently true.

You can be in a 'family' company where the next lazy AF 18 YO will be your next boss
You can be in a corporate meritocracy where your boss is an idiot and just stands on your shoulders without passing anything downhill.

If your company has upward momentum and your boss is both a decent and transparent human being, you can work hard and move up.
You can also work hard and succeed at projects and hop job to job with a strong resume (assuming the market isn't shit, like it is atm)

Know your boss.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Most companies are politically fiefdoms of a sort. This is by design. You're completely dependent on the benevolence of the management chain above you. This also explains why decadent or malicious management is nearly impossible to overcome without resorting to involving lawyers.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Absolutely. So the key is to understand the management chain above you and optimize that relationship. You either give them just enough that they would fire someone else first, or you make them dependent on you. Of course the real problem is when someone in the change swaps out from a benevolent manager to dick :)

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Of course the real problem is when someone in the change swaps out from a benevolent manager to dick :)

Had this happen with a VP seat. The resignations that followed made the office look like ground-zero for an extinction-level event.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

ground-zero for an extinction-level event.

Probably moaning the whole time that people didn't want to work and they'd replace them all with better, cheaper people

[–] lukaro@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Not something I would advise in today's world but I managed to make a decent living off one rule. Know the person paying me, it help ensure they know me and what I contribute.

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[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How do You use a sick day?

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

By being lazy, obviously. Get back to work.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"In here we are like a family"

[–] lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

"a modern family."

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

Actually the company benefits if you take days off. It's a risk leveling benefit for them if your PTO is a liability they must pay when you leave.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I have unlimited PTO and take at least 3-4 weeks of vacation/sick time a year, never had anyone complain or give me shit for it.

The company is happy with my work output and sees me as a valuable source of knowledge. If it weren't for C-level fuckery, this would be an amazing job

[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I've been told C++ level fuckery isn't great either

/this is facetious just in case anyone thinks I actually thought they were talking about C programming and not the suits.

[–] Beth@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

I don’t get punished for not taking sick days. I just have to double up on missed billing stuff the next day usually. So it’s like it’s own punishment.

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago

I get a pretty nice package of time off but pretty much never used it until recently, our team of four turned into just me and I'm seriously eyeing the 500+ hours of sicktime I have banked.

I'm not going to keep just working through stuff, it really doesn't seem to pay off.

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