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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 59 points 2 days ago (3 children)

And he also learnt how to hold his phone horizontally. Truly a journey of self-discovery.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Hiis shift in perspective was multi-layered

[–] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Truly the better improvement of the two. Death to vertical filming!

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

So I guess it’s either hold your phone flat or the earth is flat, but not both. The orientation change when he changed.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Flat earth is one of those things that's so ignorant that I don't even get mad at them. I just feel sad for them.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

The only issue I have with flat earthers is the arrogance. The rest is ignorance that we can deal with if they allow us.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

That used to be broadly my view, until I watched Dan Olson's In Search of A Flat Earth, in which he explores the worldview in which this "opinion" persists and why.

[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 89 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I am entirely convinced the flat earth movement consists of 90% pranksters who are doing it for shits and giggles and 10% bona fide contrarian retards who falsely believe they’re in good company.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I work with a guy who is convinced the earth is flat and space is fake and all the governments know it and that's why planes aren't allowed to ever fly over Antarctica or something.

But even that guy jumped off the trump train.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

But even that guy jumped off the trump train.

top kek

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I worked with someone who seriously claimed that covid was produced by 5G towers, and also was a con by the government so they could inject nanobots into our blood via vaccines. He was never able to see the contradiction.

He also relieved that if you speed in a rental car for some reason the police cannot pull you over. Boy was he wrong.

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

I'm not sure I see the contradiction myself. It sounds like the theory is the towers somehow transmit the virus which creates the need and pretext for the vaccine that allows the secret nanobot injection right?

Is it contradictory because the capacity to wirelessly transmit a biological virus through these 5g towers would mean they wouldn't need to physically inject these nanobot things because they should be able to just transmit them the same way? Because if so, I can see what you mean but I suppose that doesn't necessarily follow, like maybe for whatever reason viruses are different to nanobots and can somehow be transmitted through radio technology but nanobots can't. Or also they might think, as so many conspiracy theorists do, that COVID is a "hoax" so that opens up all kinds of creative interpretations, maybe their 5g towers merely produce the disease known as COVID and there is no actual virus known as SARS-COV-2 and that's the "hoax" part. That theory wouldn't require virus transmission over radiowaves just radiowaves being "bad" for reasons that could be made up later.

[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I lol'd. We all have a coworker like that. Hell, he's my supervisor.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think it's more like 10% grifters, 90% dupes.

[–] peripheralneuropathy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What's the grift angle? People make money believing that shit?

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's a small industry of flat earth influencers.

[–] peripheralneuropathy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

What the hell is there to make money off of though? In today's Flat Earth news: It's not confirmation bias, Earth is still flat and nobody will believe you if you try to tell them and you'll get kicked out of orgies for revealing the truth.

Do actual real people really compulsively watch this like their favorite live streamer or HOW does this shit even exist? IS there an anti insanity monetized counter channel war to this? Oh wait, that's what OPs image is setting up for....anti-flat Earth grift

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 8 points 1 day ago

Flat earth isn't the scam itself, it's the hook. There are a million ways to get people into the conspiracy theory sphere, but once they're hooked on one thing, they're primed to believe everything else. It took less than a year from my mom to go from watching videos "asking questions" about science to spending a bunch of money on everything from silver supplements and ivermectin to 5g blockers and resonance machines.

The point of flat earth and related conspiracies is that they prey on people's misunderstanding of science and mathematics (why Earth round if look flat?) to sow doubt in the collective understanding of reality as a whole. Once that happens, you can tell them anything isn't what it seems and they'll believe you, and sell them anything to fix it, and they'll pay you.

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i think you have the percentages wrong but the groups right. more like 1:3 pranksters:dipshits

also, would you mind using a different word than retard? i don't particularly like being grouped with flat earthers.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Wait until you meet some

Maybe? The Netflix doc mad a pretty convincing argument that they are sad, undereducated, and unaccomplished losers who are desperate to feel superior to something and to have something approximating real friends.

I think it started as stupid shit and people with the most desperate need latched on because they had nothing else in there entire lives.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe started by pranksters then grifters realizes that can sell fake books and fake stuff like some fake tool that pretends to prove some false assumption

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

woah. i never see this. like as a former cultist, your typical response is "not my circus, not my monkeys" (even if it is your circus and your monkeys. I wish i never started that whale cult)

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Whale cult? Sounds like story time 🍿

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There's this big whale statue in Utah and I started a joke religion about it. Only some folk took it seriously. Like I wasn't even in Utah

Edit this whale

It was a running joke for the weekend on an alumni website and then I didn't hear anything about until I read this article

[–] xxxb@feddit.org 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

wait the meme works in reverse?

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago

🧑‍🚀🔫🤡🌍

[–] elfpie@lemmy.eco.br 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

First video: I saw the light, don't be fooled by the lies they tell you.

Latest video: I saw the light, don't be fooled by the lies they tell you

Whatever generates more profit is what they believe.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Don’t quote me on this, but I think this guy was one of the people who went to the Arctic to see a 24 hour sunny day and actually accepted the evidence

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The conspiracy theorist YouTube space is oversaturated and it's difficult to generate new content when you don't really have anything new to bring to the table.

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[–] rangber@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

If you generate more profit by aligning with reality, I'll say go for it

[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

No, there really is a flat world in the shape of a disc, on 4 elephants on the back of the great A'Tuin

It is just in a distant and secondhand set of dimensions. You wouldn't know them.

[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (21 children)

I'm a flat spacer, I think spacetime is flat, continuous, and homogeneous therefore ensuring any finite arrangement of energy is occurring infinite times in any direction you can point. Is there an atom for atom replica of the earth, it's entire history, and me? Yup, infinitely many in any direction one can point, along with all other finite arrangements of energy.

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[–] Delilah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 days ago (5 children)

What happened 6 months ago to show this man the light?

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

I’m pretty sure that’s one of the guy in the Netflix documentary about flat earther. Over the course of the documentary he design with one of his friend an experiment … and the documentary end with him looking at the results and questioning his beliefs

It’s a shit documentary but there’s some insight (not because the director is brilliant, because he don’t know what he’s recording) into the conspiracionists psych

Anyway that meme is old, pre covid

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[–] Erna_muse@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the problem with gossip or idle chatter. Things you think are jokes or just weird culture is actually seeding by psyops or con men.

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

I also like that his views increased as he became more aware of the bs he fell for.

[–] KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Applauded for pulling his head out of his ass. Good news America - we've failed.

[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Better than keeping his head up his ass. Conspiracy groups can often also be part of community and identity. Changing your mind, therefore, might mean losing a social circle and possibly status that you thought to have. He probably though that he was smarter than 90% of the population, and now he feels like an idiot.

In that scenario, this is the best outcome and it should be applauded. If we don't reward people for escaping and admitting their wrong, then they could easily get trapped. Why change your mind when it means that nobody likes you anymore and everyone thinks you're an idiot?

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Anyone that can learn from their mistakes and take in new information that was against their initial beliefs is worthy of praise.

[–] Wicked@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The earty is round but hollow, holes at the north and south pole, leading to agartha, where the black stone sit at the center.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I think Mark Sargent has quietly figured it out, but he makes a living being the "flat earth guy", and doesn't know what else to do with his life.

What really surprised me about Behind the Curve was how smart a lot of those guys were.

[–] Hasherm0n@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

The smarter someone is, the better they're able to rationalize what they believe. Admitting one is wrong isn't usually a matter of intelligence, it's a matter of pride (or money).

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[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

In my experience the highly religious hold on to flat earth the most. Just another reason religion is cancer

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