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[–] homes@piefed.world 99 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

We didn’t quit paying taxes. We just quit paying unfair taxes to the Crown.

[–] Denvil@piefed.world 40 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Quit paying ~~unfair~~ taxes to the crown

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

"No taxation without representation". If the colonies got representatives in Parliament, that flag would look mighty different.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago (23 children)

Except that the British were offering that concession, and the negotiators for the colonists didn't want to take it because really the taxes and lack of representation were just an excuse.

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[–] OS2Warp@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

DC has entered the chat…

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[–] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

A reminder that the taxes in question were levied to recoup the costs of French and Indian War, which the colonists started.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And, which was largely fought (and won) in a way that dramatically benefitted the colonists.

Ever wonder why there are so many places with French names just slightly inland from the original 13 US colonies have French names?

  • Bayou La Batre, Decatur, Lapine, Leroi, Mon Louis, Dauphin Island, etc. Alabama
  • Louisville, Paris, Versailles, Montpelier, etc. in Kentucky
  • Leroy, Napoleon, Montpelier, Saint Croix, etc. in Indiana
  • Bellaire, Bellefontaine, Louisville, Marietta, etc. in Ohio
  • Dubois, Duquesne, Labelle, Fort le Boeuf, Eau Claire, etc. in Pennsylvania
  • The name "Michigan" itself (originally Ojibwe, but interpreted into French), and a whole lot of parts of that state, including Detroit
  • Ozark (aux arcs), Benoit, Bellefontaine, D'Iberville etc. in Mississippi

New France went from the Gulf of Mexico north, included all the Great Lakes, and kept going up to Hudson's Bay. American settlers couldn't go west without entering New France, so England fought a war to allow the expansion west. It won that war. The resulting treaty gave the British colonists in the Americas a huge amount of territory they could expand into, leaving only a small amount behind for France and its native allies.

The British colonists in the Americas were asked to help pay for the war that gave them that opportunity to expand west, and they rebelled. And then, after the rebellion, they decided they didn't need to abide by the terms of the British treaty with the French and took over most of the remaining land that France had been left after that war.

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[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Didn't the boston tea party start because they lowered the price of legally imported (and thus taxed) tea, undermining smugglers?

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[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

We just like how the “un fair taxes” they teach is actually way lower than the taxes US citizens have now adays.

[–] ftbd@feddit.org 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It really depends on what you're getting in return. If your taxes paid for your healthcare and education, things would be different

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Best they can offer is bombs for isreal

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[–] meekah@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Is this just for the memes? Or do people actually not like fireworks?

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They're boring, loud, and pointless.

I don't mind going to an actual coordinated show at a local beach, but every individual douchebag just shooting them off in their backyard for funsies is a fucking loser.

[–] meekah@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I can only speak for myself, but I do think fireworks should be much more regulated. Each year 10,000 people get hurt from fireworks in the US alone, and it's pretty horrible for the environment. I do appreciate the cultural importance, so I don't think completely banning them is the solution, but I think it would be much better if there were just a few organized firework shows, and no more fireworks for private use.

[–] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That makes a ton of sense. I’m in Canada, where they are regulated. You really only ever see fireworks at organized events put on by towns/cities, and they are always awesome. One of my favourite things to watch as a kid.

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[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you've seen one, you've seen them all.

Unless someone can invent the real equivalent of the fireworks Gandalf usef in the LoTR movie, I'm not interested.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you have a dog or a cat, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out why some people don't like fireworks

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I have pets and any firework related holiday I have to hole up with them all night to comfort them. And that's just on the days I know they will have them, basically all of autumn and winter have dickgeads randomly setting off fireworks for god knows what reason. It's hell

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 44 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Are people under the impression that the US revolution and independence was specifically about not paying taxes? That's some libertarian shit right there.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's the narrative pushed In alot of schools in the USA

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I distinctly remember writing some report about taxation without representation, thinking it was some super important American principle. I was real confused when I learned about Puerto Rico

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Varpeggio@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Wait, why?! DC doesn’t get proper representation. Or are you joking?

In any case, to say the people of the 50 states are adequately represented is foolish.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

DC, Puerto Rico, Samoa, Virgin Islands and Mariana Islands all pay taxes and have zero representation in congress.

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[–] MBech@feddit.dk 6 points 3 weeks ago

Different rules for brown people.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No one ever accused Americans of being smart.

[–] TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Listen pal, I wish you were in front of me. Me and my two buddies would take you on, 5 to 1.

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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is one of the most effective propaganda lines to keep idiots voting for less taxes for the rich and corporations.

You didn't stop paying taxes, you started getting services and representation in your legislature in exchange for paying taxes.

Ironically, you guys pay taxes to Israel in exchange for nothing now.

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[–] thezeesystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You know what's also not cool. Making using fireworks illegal because it might cause a fire but don't ban the selling of fireworks.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Fireworks enthusiasts should take their fireworks to a fireworks range when they want to use them and keep them locked in a fireworks case when not in use.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

The greatest punishment from God is that the pretty fireworks that aren't loud and annoying are also the ones most likely to cause fires

[–] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The U.S. literally started charging insane taxes right as the country began. They even teach Shays Rebellion in school.

[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

The whole story only makes sense through the propaganda lens, brave freedom fighters against an oppressive government taxing them for no reason.

Then you read the actual context and it's a bunch of new aristocracy high on slave money mad that the empire refuses to let them expand past the boarders established in a war that benefited them and they are now having to pay taxes for.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

When we quit paying taxes... to England.

It's a half thought, but anything sounds deep to a giant idiot.

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[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Lemmy is starting to really tire me out with constant negativity. The niche comms I sub to are mostly quiet, and the big ones it seems like everyone is at each other's throats.

This was a joke, in shitposts. I thought it was worth a chuckle, but not really worth dissection and all the negative energy.

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[–] 5ha99y@lemmus.org 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I see taxes as a good solidary thing but we need far stronger regulations or personal interest direction where the tax should go

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

No we shouldn’t. Imagine where the taxes would go, and then understand where people would make sure they didn’t go. A shitload of people are racist, self serving, and shortsighted.

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[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hear me out, just start a religion where fireworks are a form of religious ceremony. Although you'll likely still pay tax on procuring the materials to manufacture the fireworks.

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Ugh. How does MA have to keep reminding this part of history?

No taxation WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. Having a voice was the important part. But asking people to parse a conditional is too much.

“If you breathe mercury, jump off a bridge.”
“You’re telling me to jump off a bridge!???”

That's why I buy mine on the rez

[–] Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

Wait, what idiot thinks that the 4th of July is a celebration of not paying taxes?

[–] damwab@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Then don't get the fireworks? I'm a huge advocate to just ban the entire thing worldwide anyways. Let the cities organize big shows but no private sales, it's massively wasteful for both your pockets and the environment.

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