This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
I drive through Wyoming yesterday, and was struck by how much carbon one has to burn just to keep extracting oil, let alone refining it and shipping it.
The Chinese uptake of EVs has saved 280,000 lives due to reduced emissions/pollution.
Burning gas is so extremely bad that even throwing away your old ICE car and buying a new electric car is better than driving the ICE car until it „falls apart“. This was the research finding in Switzerland, but this result was so unwelcome that the research got hidden away. https://www.republik.ch/2025/06/11/amtliche-selbstzensur
but this result was so unwelcome that the research got hidden away.
the climate, oil industry did not like it was being contradicted.
Everytime you bring it up, you get a whole lot of people with gasoline powered cars getting very angry. Sure batteries are not 'perfect', but they are a whole lot better in almost every way compared to gasoline powered vehicles.
The anger is less about how bad EV's are and more about being expected to buy a hilariously expensive EV when someone has a perfectly functional car. Make them cheaper and people will buy them, because other than the environmental aspect EV's just require less maintenance overall, making them cheaper to run.
Even in the US, there are now a handful of EVs that are price competitive. For example I believe Equinox EV is similar price to Equinox ICE
But I don't want the EV equivalent of an Equinox, I want the EV equivalent of a base model Corolla.
Chevy Bolt? I don’t know anything about it and didn’t bring it up since there’s no direct comparison to highlight price competitiveness. However it’s a reasonably priced vehicle marketed as a value for basic transportation.
But yeah everyone wanted to follow the Tesla model of starting out with expensive models serving a small niche. That worked for Tesla when there was no market, but you can’t expect to copy the approach that established the market when you’re trying to break into an existing market. Legacy manufacturers were stupid for trying so of course never reached the scale for profitability. But then they gave up before pivoting to affordable vehicles, and politics broke everything …… we know there are plenty of affordable value-priced EVs in the world, just not in the US due to politics and legacy inertia.
Chevy Bolt?
Didn't they cancel that model?
Yeah, at least twice, but they are making it again this year
oh wow I didn't know that!
would make sense to give more a lot incentives for EV buying if so!
I wish they weren’t so expensive though.
IMO the biggest incentive of all is that the battery exists for the life of the vehicle and can be recycled at the end (the lithium inside does not disappear!), vs the gas which is literally burning money away.
Oh wow, another EV thread with a bunch of oil industry mouthpieces telling us how the studies are wrong and what we didn't think of. Thank you Mr. Shell, I almost forgot not everyone has a charging point at their house and it takes time to charge an EV.
Color me surprised.
Plus you don’t need to invest in an expensive charging station. We put a big outlet in our garage like you use for large appliances - it was a fraction of the cost, and the car charges overnight.
You may not even need that. A regular 110V outlet can charge an EV, just takes longer. Of course it depends on how much you drive whether that'll be enough. But many people have used that when they first get an EV, and planned on doing what you did and install a 220 outlet later, but then don't bother with the 220 since 110 is enough.
Yes this! It's like 2 hrs of charging equals 1hr of driving. If the car is parked more than driving then it's enough. Maybe if you're a taxi driver or delivery driver all day then you might need the level 2 but most cases you don't.
I use the standard plug in charger at home. I get 12kw (45 miles) in my 7 hour off peak window. That coupled with free charging at work means I never needed to invest in the £1,000 7kw charger at home.
Everybody’s needs are different - my experience js just one of many. What I’m saying is if you’re reading this and think you need a big expensive charger at home, there are options!
It's fun to imagine an opposite world where everybody has EVs and other more efficient forms of transit, and then industry wants to introduce ICE vehicles to the market.
You fill it with flammable liquid poison and it shoots gaseous poison out the back while it's running, and nobody can refuel at home, and it's immensely more mechanically complex, but at least it's quick to fill with fuel at the fuel store! Just try not to inhale the poisonous explosive fumes or spill the poisonous volatile liquid on yourself while you do it.
Bro, didn't you know solar panels get hot when in the sun? Global warming!!
Clearly everyone should run a diesel generator in their living room just to be safe.
Dude, it's the opposite problem. Where do you think the sunlight goes when it hits a solar panel? It sucks it all up! If we set up too many solar panels, they're going to use up all the sunshine and cool the globe until we have another ice age. Big brother petroleum has been saving us!
Most issues require nuance, and the internet does not have the concept of nuance at all. I did my research and bought my EV, no regrets at all. Not only do I know it's better because I haven't consumed gas now in over 2 years, it's also simply the best and easiest car I've ever owned. It's a no brainer to get one. Anyone who says otherwise I think firmly needs to think about their connection with propaganda.
I'm sure we'll eventually get to the point where they invent rapid charging batteries that can fully charge in 5 minutes. But realistically we don't need it, you just change the way you think about fuelling up.
"We decided to let the earth and all living things on it die, as it would be too hard on the economy if we tried to save it". /s
